13 comments

  • tyoma 6 minutes ago
    Kids really love these things and get very excited to see them on the road.

    They are going to be very valued collectors items in 30 years once the kids of today have enough disposable income to buy whichever are left roadworthy by then.

    • hexagonsun 2 minutes ago
      no way the batteries last that long
    • dgacmu 4 minutes ago
      You must have different kids than I do. Mine point at them and observe that they spotted another dumpster.
      • trollbridge 4 minutes ago
        I suspect you influenced them to feel this way.
      • jwineinger 2 minutes ago
        Same. Mine like calling out "cyber-yuck!"
      • soperj 2 minutes ago
        yeah, my kids will call out, look another "Cyberbarf"
    • 2OEH8eoCRo0 0 minutes ago
      Crazy that a vehicle designed to appeal to five year old boys didn't sell so well.
  • ribaspatel 3 minutes ago
    The dimensions felt off to me. I had it as a loaner and enjoyed it a bit, especially since it had HW4. But I would never buy one.

    The size is just too impractical. It would never fit in my garage. On top of that, the standby drain was significant. Just sitting idle, it would lose 10 to 20 miles of range.

  • int32_64 7 minutes ago
    Electric trucks in general seem terrible. You only see Rivians and Cybertrucks in urban settings, the electric F150 was discontinued. Anybody who knows how people that actually need trucks use trucks saw this coming, I never once saw a cybertruck used as a truck.
    • WJW 1 minute ago
      I always got the impression that the vast majority of the F150s are never used as trucks either. Americans just like really really big cars because fuel is cheap there and none of the cities are old enough that big cars are impractical.
    • fooker 1 minute ago
      I have seen rivians being used as trucks pretty often in small towns.
    • soperj 1 minute ago
      I know people with Rivians and F-150 Lightnings and they love them.
    • trollbridge 3 minutes ago
      Given US pricing of $6.50 diesel, the cyber truck with 11,000 lb towing capacity actually makes a lot of sense.

      It just looks too weird.

  • firasd 11 minutes ago
    I noticed that the cyberpunk wedge cars that inspired it are 2 seaters… maybe this shape isn't right for much larger cars?

    DeLorean is the real life 80s reference of course, but in cyberpunk revival media like the coupe in Ghost in the Shell 2017, the spinner in Blade Runner 2049—those cars are all much smaller cabins than the cybertruck

  • gnabgib 50 minutes ago
    Discussion (194 points, 240 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50391456
  • faefox 5 minutes ago
    Truly one of the most baffling stories in recent automotive history. All they had to do was make a normal pickup truck with Tesla tech. Hell, go ahead and use it as the testbed for 48V, steer-by-wire and whatever else if you want to - but the amount of time and money wasted to make what was in the end an absolute monstrosity that failed to deliver on any of its price, performance and range promises strains credulity. Cybertruck is the most visible inflection point marking Elon's descent into madness.
  • voxadam 57 minutes ago
    • Dwedit 4 minutes ago
      Disabling Javacsript lets you read the article already. There's no need to visit archive.today, where you participate in executing DDOS attacks against anyone who criticizes the site's creator.
  • Kapura 12 minutes ago
    Truly the peak of 2020s antisocial car design. The car looks designed to plow through other vehicles, barriers, and pedestrians without slowing down to count the bodies. "Bulletproof bodypanels" is only a selling point on a mass production car if you routinely piss people off enough to make them grab iron. Folks who need pickup trucks for the utility they provide have stuck with trucks that are actually fit for purpose. It was a way to signal to the world that you had extremely poor judgement and low standards.
    • trollbridge 1 minute ago
      In the real world it has fsd + non-fsd capabilities to immediately stop before hitting a pedestrian.

      The steel chassis provides rigidity instead of a traditional frame. They ended up having to be flat, not curved, to meet the design goal.

      I guess we all just want something that “looks like a pickup”, is heavy, and guzzles $7 a gallon diesel fuel

  • schiffern 23 minutes ago

      >blaming the problem on the wrong type of glue, a new adhesive “not prone to environmental embrittlement.”
    
    That quote was about the new glue, not the old glue?

      >some RWD Cybertruck owners merrily driving along could be disconcertingly overtaken by their own wheels.
    
    If they read their own link, that never happened?

    Who's doing the proofreading at Wired now? Is it all just AI?

    • CharlieDigital 12 minutes ago

          > If they read their own link, that never happened?
      
      https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/tesla-recalls-cybertru...

          > The issue stems from the brake rotors, and the report says more severe road conditions "may strain" the stud holes in the wheel rotor, causing cracks to form. If the cracks persist and worsen, it may result in the wheel detaching entirely.
      
      https://autos.yahoo.com/ev-and-future-tech/articles/tesla-cy...

          > In a recent off-road escapade at the King of the Hammers event in Johnson Valley, California, a Tesla Cybertruck experienced a mechanical failure resulting in one of its wheels snapping off. The incident, captured over the weekend, has raised eyebrows about the durability of Tesla's much-touted electric truck.
      
      I can't remember the specific video, but I recall seeing someone breakdown some of the poor materials/engineering choices for "truck" use cases and of the mass of the CT.

      Found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scBKKHi7WQ

    • gyanchawdhary 10 minutes ago
      whatever this author writes should to be taken with a grain of salt ... i mean, he's paying his mortage and putting his kids thru school by professionally critiquing everything Elon does .. at leaat based on his wirted article history .. https://www.wired.com/story/how-tesla-made-its-new-230-mph-c... ..
  • 1970-01-01 19 minutes ago
    Unloved and unwanted is outright false. Go to cybertruckownersclub.com for a more balanced take. Somehow Wired managed to completely miss the best U-word description of it: Ugly.
    • InsidiousWombat 15 minutes ago
      Just because someone likes a given piece of trash doesn't make it not a piece of trash
      • 1970-01-01 12 minutes ago
        That's not how the ancient idiom goes..
      • method_capital 6 minutes ago
        We need this person to tell us all what we should like!

        I notice this internet world we live in, networked behind screens, really demonstrates the average person's drift to totalitarianism. It's frightening to me.

    • Kapura 17 minutes ago
      >go to a forum for the owners club for a more balanced take

      hilarious sentiment

      • 1970-01-01 13 minutes ago
        Go look before you have a knee jerk reaction.
      • howunfortunate 11 minutes ago
        I mean owners are often quite regretful?

        It's certainly more balanced than a forum of non-owners who's only knowledge about the issue is that they hate Elon with an undying passion.

    • jjuel 3 minutes ago
      "There are dozens of us...DOZENS!"
  • cush 23 minutes ago
    Elon truly was inspired by Delorean
    • Zigurd 19 minutes ago
      That's disrespectful to a guy who made a nicer car and had a less destructive drug habit.
      • jjuel 1 minute ago
        "That's gold, Jerry. Gold."
    • ramesh31 5 minutes ago
      >"Elon truly was inspired by Delorean"

      He wishes. Delorean is a modern classic, regardless of commercial success. Cybertruck will go down like the H1/H2; something entirely emblematic of the worst excesses in the time it was conceived and marketed in, that later generations will go "did they really think that was cool?".

  • kstrauser 26 minutes ago
    No Wired love for the Incel Camino? The Deplorean?
  • nazgulsenpai 16 minutes ago
    I have very little interest in electric vehicles, Tesla, Elon Musk, etc. But I still think the Cybertruck, at least the design, looks awesome. It looked like something you'd see in the "Another World" or "Out of this World" intro cinematic.
    • mrob 13 minutes ago
      Agreed. I see it as the successor to the angular style of the Lamborghini Countach, which far more people are willing to admit looks cool.
      • whynotmaybe 9 minutes ago
        Both look extremely cool to me but Elon's behaviour is the only reason I'll never buy a tesla. Even though the cybertruck looks awesome but it's impossible for me to be seen in this. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd used a cybertruck in a BTTF remake
      • toyg 1 minute ago
        The cultural element is the difference. It's a suburban vehicle who wants to pretend it's a truck, exactly like the pompous suburbanite assholes who want to pretend they are rugged alpha types just because they drive a truck they don't really need: both would fall apart in a minute when faced with real problems.

        The Countach was just the usual Lamborghini luxury scam, and I say that as someone who grew up a few km from the factory.

      • giantrobot 4 minutes ago
        Having seen both in person, a Countach actually looks cool. The Cybertruck looks like a shitty unused model from a PS1 game.

        Just because something is "angular" doesn't mean it's in any way comparable to a Cybertruck.

    • laughing_man 12 minutes ago
      For an "unwanted" truck, I sure see a lot of them on the road.
    • swaptr 13 minutes ago
      As with most marketing gimmicks, they have little to no value outside of their insane marketing.
    • iAMkenough 11 minutes ago
      Personally, I think it looks like a silver dumpster.