Keeping the Bonfires Lit

(historytoday.com)

18 points | by Petiver 1 day ago

4 comments

  • vintagedave 6 hours ago
    > Deeply political in its origins, [Bonfire Night] was born of a specific moment of national crisis in the 17th century. Does it still resonate today, when the narratives of our national history are ever more contested?

    It's a mildly horrific celebration, with its tradition of burning an effigy (Guy Fawkes.) The man himself was not executed by fire, but in the end by hanging, I think. Wikipedia has some unpleasant details of what was planned for him.

    Yet today, effigies of other people are placed on the fire. I feel it is a relevant festival, in that unlike Halloween (spooky ghosts, commercial) it's a deeply political festival, the result of failed revolution. It's a celebration of the establishment winning, and yet somehow people see it more as a celebration of the attempt.

  • comrade1234 8 hours ago
    Very little information in that article. For example I would have expected something about Samhain - precursor to British Halloween in Ireland, Scotland, Celtic areas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain

    • clickety_clack 6 hours ago
      Strange to call it “British” when it originated in Ireland.
      • edoceo 4 hours ago
        British, from British Isles, of which Ireland is one. And Scotland is on the other big one. And the Celts were all around there.
  • hedora 7 hours ago
    So, I had to look up Bonfire night. I think the article is about Guy Fawkes Night. Guy Fawkes masks became popular here in the US a few year ago, and are still reasonably common. Second Halloween with political effigies and big fires seems like it could do well, though it'd probably land on Election Day...
    • vintagedave 6 hours ago
      That would have been due to V for Vendetta, which was heavily inspired by the story of Guy Fawkes.
  • 4ndrewl 8 hours ago
    And now too Diwali, the festival of light, is very popular in many parts of the UK - the only constant is change!
    • FiniteField 8 hours ago
      Not particularly amongst the remaining indigenous-populated areas, it's only really a thing in the areas that have had large Indian-heritage populations transplanted there.