26 comments

  • jacquesm 12 hours ago
    This doesn't really have anything to do with GLM-5.3. This is what happens when you share models between users and don't do your bookkeeping properly, the actual model doesn't matter. What it shows is that there isn't enough isolation between the user sessions and that memory can overlap when that should never be possible.

    This is an SGLANG and a Cloudflare bug long before it is a Z.AI model bug, I don't see what they could have done about it. Cloudflare should own it instead of naming other (imo innocent) parties in the title.

    • kflansburg 12 hours ago
      At no point do we claim that it is a bug with the model. We specifically outline how it was a mis-configuration on Cloudflare's part and a bug in SGLang. We name the model in the title because our customers need to know which of our endpoints was affected. In fact, we say "the GLM-5.3 Workers AI model", not "GLM-5.3".
      • jacquesm 12 hours ago
        Not buying that. You explicitly mention the model name in the title the 'GLM 5.3 workers AI model' suggests it is something specific to GLM 5.3 which it is not. You mention Sglang and are all surprised that it didn't throw an error. But the issue was yours all along.
        • margalabargala 12 hours ago
          Yeah, their title is absolutely implying a GLM bug to anyone who doesn't read it super closely.

          There's a huge amount of unnecessary extraneous details in the headline that distract from "this is a Cloudflare bug".

          • literallyroy 11 hours ago
            Not sure if the title was edited but as is it is very clear to me this is a bug on their side and I have no idea how a technically literate person (someone using the model via cloudflare?) who would misinterpret given the reference to the cache.
            • infecto 1 hour ago
              The title is poorly worded. I can easily see how it can be conflated in passing. Naming the model is silly in the title. It should be mentioned in the article but as read the title suggests it’s something related to this model.
        • XYen0n 11 hours ago
          I have read this post, and it appears that this is indeed an issue specific to the GLM 5.3 model on their platform. I am unsure whether this is because only GLM 5.3 uses SGLang or because only its configuration is problematic.
          • paimapi 40 minutes ago
            Did we read different articles? None of the issues they brought up (architecture splitting, memory transport, Cloudflare's misconfigured context window provisioning, the SGLang state leak, lack of client error provisioning) are model related. These all exist at the layer of the harness (ie Cloudflare's configuration).

            A better title would be "Cross-request KV cache exposure in Cloudflare provisioned GLM-5.3 Workers AI model" because it narrows culpability. Just posting it on the Cloudflare blog isn't enough for that in the age of AI and SEO data-scrapes and it'd be surprising to me if the authors didn't know that.

      • robrenaud 6 hours ago
        I was surprised in reading the article that it had nothing to do with the contents of the model. It could have been any model capable of 1M context that triggered this bug/misconfig on Cloudflare/SGLangs side. The title is extremely misleading.
      • asdfsa32 11 hours ago
        "Cross-request KV cache exposure in X model".

        Which part of that is not claiming the exposure is in X model? Cloudflare is stopping to be cool, this is the start. I guess, cf is now big enough for enshitification to start.

      • nullc 8 hours ago
        Then remove GLM-5.3 from the title.
        • jarym 4 hours ago
          Their AI won’t let them
    • srdjanr 5 hours ago
      To me it's obvious that anything related to caching has little to do with the model itself. And it's nice to know from the title that you could only be affected if you used this model.
      • embedding-shape 47 minutes ago
        It took me until "We have remediated the issue" to realize Cloudflare is talking about an issue they have in their infrastructure, up until that point they're not making that clear at all, and seems to point towards something else, unless you of course already are aware of what exact names Cloudflare uses for their products...
    • aliasxneo 11 hours ago
      It seems like you're trying to imply this was an intentional bias due to the nationality of the model authors. But the first sentence of the article is:

      "On September 8, 2026, we were alerted by a security researcher, Gadi Evron from Knostic, to a tenant isolation issue affecting the GLM-5.3 Workers AI model (@cf/zai-org/glm-5.3) starting on August 27, 2026."

      Meaning the issue was a cache exposure with the GLM-5.3 Workers AI model. If the title was, "Cache exposure issue with GLM-5.3," I would agree it's ambiguous and maybe intentionally harmful. But it literally says, "Workers AI model" which is clearly a Cloudflare product.

      • jacquesm 10 hours ago
        I did not mention anybody's nationality, nor did I imply that that was important.

        Downthread I suggested "Cloudflare configuration error leaked data between user sessions" which I think is far better. You could improve on it further: "Cloudflare AI worker configuration error leaked data between user sessions". But this could have happened with any model.

      • weird-eye-issue 8 hours ago
        Why are you bringing up people's nationalities? This seems incredibly inappropriate
        • aliasxneo 33 minutes ago
          Probably because there's an on-going conspiracy that's been all over HN that these large corporations are on a smear campaign against Chinese models.
  • ComputerGuru 14 minutes ago
    Read this last night. I was completely thrown off when I read this line:

    > We expected the engine to return an error for any prompt it could not process, and our long-context tests returned successful responses, so we did not believe this to be an issue

    Surely “we expected and error but got a successful response” merits investigating rather than moving on?

  • yababa_y 28 minutes ago
    Even cloudflare being unable to deploy this technology correctly makes me think there are some serious failures of knowledge transmission happening somewhere between theoreticians and practicians.
  • kami23 15 hours ago
    I like this RCA a lot more than most. I appreciate the ownership and clear explanation of why their testing did not catch this bug.

    Also impressed with the speed to address the issue unplug the model and then pretty quick remediation, the speed to remediation matters less to me, but good to see they can act quickly on their platform to kill the serving of the model.

  • segmondy 14 hours ago
    "We deployed GLM 5.3 with a 1,048,576-token context window, but the KV cache pool on our prefill GPUs only had room for 681,280 tokens. We were aware of this mismatch before launch. "

    Did they advertise it as 1,048,576 token when they only had room for 681,280 tokens?

    • SillyUsername 7 hours ago
      So they knowingly deployed a configuration with an overflow risk, much like writing code with a buffer overflow exploit.

      They assumed that it wasn't like an overflow exploit, despite the fact that's exactly what they'd set up to happen, on the grounds of thinking the equivalent of, "oh this probably uses smart pointers, we'll be fine".

      That's how I read it anyway.

    • weird-eye-issue 13 hours ago
      Next sentence: "We expected the engine to return an error for any prompt it could not process, and our long-context tests returned successful responses, so we did not believe this to be an issue."
      • jacquesm 12 hours ago
        Which is pointing the finger at Sglang, who also weren't responsible for this.

        At a minimum someone should have realized during testing that their utilization figures are off by 40%.

        A much better title would be "Cloudflare configuration error leaked data between user sessions"

        • weird-eye-issue 9 hours ago
          I mean they are responsible for this. It's definitely a bug on their end.
      • segmondy 12 hours ago
        Doesn't matter, they could have marketed it as 1 million token window, you would then infer, get to 600k and get an error. You won't be able to finish your work, and you won't get credit for 600k tokens.
        • weird-eye-issue 9 hours ago
          They thought it worked up to 1m token window
          • segmondy 8 hours ago
            why would they think that? I'm not a pro, but I know you can't serve more than kv cache pool that you have. If you want to run concurrent requests, you need to have more kv cache pool than your context window. The entire thing is weird, my bet is they were thinking most people will be using about 100k cache, compacting, etc and not nearing 600k ever.
            • hedgehog 57 minutes ago
              See my other comment, this is likely only for the prefill GPU pool, a normal 1M token session would work fine. I think Cloudflare should probably link an explainer on how model serving works at the top of the post because a lot of people are not familiar at that level of detail.
      • freakynit 12 hours ago
        Bro, I had to read this sentence in the context of the previous one, 3 fcking times.. and it sill does not make any sense to me.
        • Graziano_M 12 hours ago
          Sounds like they are saying they tested with a long prompt and just tested for a failure, but the test likely would have seen that same KV cache leakage and just interpreted it as success.
    • hedgehog 11 hours ago
      I read that as you can only do a single prefill up to 681k tokens, separate from cache hit or generation. I think people try pretty hard to avoid a cache miss on sessions that long and rarely do standalone requests that big so the situation triggering this condition is rare. If you run a normal coding session with many turns it would get to 1M ok.
    • embedding-shape 46 minutes ago
      Shit happens, this is normal. However, this:

      > We were aware of this mismatch before launch

      Isn't normal. Am I misunderstanding or are they openly confessing they've stopped caring about quality at all? Why would you launch when you know it's wrong?

  • armcat 27 minutes ago
    A much better title for this would be something like "Cross-Tenant KV Cache Exposure in Shared LLM Inference: Analysis and Remediation". As others have pointed out there is no need to mention GLM-5.3 in the title. As someone that has been using GLM-5.3 I immediately thought there is a cause for concern here, only to find out there isn't.
  • adg001 10 hours ago
    Please consider to update the title in: Cross-request KV cache exposure in the AI model workers
  • thehamkercat 15 hours ago
    Other providers probably don't even know/care that this is happening
    • 6thbit 15 hours ago
      Last year it happened to me more than once that dictating something in chatgpt would become a completely different message after processing, not in a misheard type of way but just a separate conversation more easily explained by the same type of KV cache issue here.
      • kami23 15 hours ago
        I think in the last year I've had it happen once where I seemingly got someone else's response, it was very odd. I rewound and got what I expected. It was correlated to Anthropic's roll out of new models at the time which always seems to cause instability in their apis.
    • kolanos 15 hours ago
      Other providers might have better isolated KV stores?
    • Orygin 13 hours ago
      I wonder if the chatgpt shirtless guy is from the same kind of issue
  • sauravadhk 9 hours ago
    It seems more specific to the platform than the model. Maybe Cross-request KV cache exposure in the AI model workers would be a better fitting title?
  • xmcqdpt2 2 hours ago
    Six months ago I had a very basic prompt to Claude at work return very specific, unrelated information that looked very much like it could have come from someone else in the company. We raised an incident and were told by Anthropic (in a 100% Claude generated email) that this wasn't possible and that AI sometimes makes mistakes like that. I'm not sure how much they investigated but apparently their email was enough for legal and compliance so eh.
  • reassess_blind 11 hours ago
    Reminds me of a bug I found in a very popular browser testing service that spun up iOS vm's/devices for on-device testing.

    I copied the clipboard from the device, and my clipboard was full of another users credentials that they were obviously trying to paste into their own VM. Their devices were leaking clipboard data to each other.

    I reported the vulnerability and asked if there was any bounty program (I wasn't looking for vulnerabilities but didn't hurt to ask), to which they said no, but they could send me a signed letter thanking me of my contributions. I said, great, thanks - and never heard back.

    All pretty disappointing.

  • nitishr 4 hours ago
    I'm just surprised more serverless providers haven't found (or publicly disclosed) similar issues, yet.
  • 8cvor6j844qw_d6 15 hours ago
    Interesting. That might explain the few times I've received completely unrelated responses from a certain provider's API.
  • octoberfranklin 10 hours ago
    Upshot: even though sglang is written in Rust, they still got burned by undefined behavior from uninitialized memory.
  • 0xbadcafebee 14 hours ago
    I kind of forgot about the shared tenancy attack model. I think I was assuming/hoping the software was magically isolating my tokens, when in reality that's impossible for shared tenants. There's whole classes of attacks on things like shared cache, before we get to the LLM-specific features and potential bugs. Enterprises with highly sensitive data should really be on non-shared hosts.
  • totetsu 12 hours ago
    Is anyone even offering single tenant inference as a service?
    • imhoguy 3 hours ago
      Still you may get traces of previous tenant if things are not cleaned up properly.
    • dools 7 hours ago
      That’s just renting GPU clusters
  • paaloeye 13 hours ago
    Is that a new class of tenant isolation vulnerability?
    • dnautics 12 hours ago
      Seems not? Just good old gpu allocations colliding
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  • atrokhymchuk 6 hours ago
    CloudBleed huh?
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