Lula Wins Brazilian Election

(tse.jus.br)

72 points | by JumpCrisscross 21 hours ago

11 comments

  • bguberfain 21 hours ago
    This was the first time I saw a major mainstream media outlet prominently feature a statistical predictive model live during the vote count (and it was spot on): https://www.estadao.com.br/politica/eleicoes/em-tempo-real-p...
  • breakyerself 21 hours ago
    Thank God. The Amazon gets to borrow a little more time.
  • rhoads 21 hours ago
    I really wish neither would win and both would be barred from running again. But since that won't happen, let's just keep looking for opportunities abroad
    • mgfist 21 hours ago
      Fabio is the son, Jair Bolsonaro is the past president.
    • loloquwowndueo 21 hours ago
      Why?

      Who would you rather have seen running instead?

      • readthenotes1 21 hours ago
        Is no one under 80 competent to lead the country?

        Asking for a friend...

        • cassianoleal 12 hours ago
          This is called ageism. I bet Lula has a more jovial and open mind than you do.
          • sentientlaserbe 5 hours ago
            Some of us value action over abstraction, and mental fitness more than a particular disposition. Some of us would leave it at "We've heard enough from you".
            • cassianoleal 4 hours ago
              The entirety of your post are straw men.
        • bdangubic 19 hours ago
          “The World is run by old men in a hurry” — https://archive.is/kPL9d
  • thiagotomei 21 hours ago
    We did it! ^^
  • thimabi 21 hours ago
    Once again, a clear anti-Bolsonaro vote from the majority of the electorate. Lula won because he got last-minute support from the moderates and even some right-wingers. It certainly does not feel like a victory of the left.

    Now he will face a much bigger opposition in Congress and therefore will have to find a middle ground.

    I expect his policies to move even further to the right. This might pave the way for his vice-president Alckmin, a historical right-winger, to run in the 2030 elections — likely against São Paulo’s governor Tarcísio de Freitas, also a right-winger and considered more moderate than the Bolsonaros despite being associated with them.

  • ChrisArchitect 20 hours ago
  • 2OEH8eoCRo0 20 hours ago
    Congrats Brazil!

    Why the flagging?

  • augusto-moura 20 hours ago
    Why was this flagged? It seems relevant
    • ceejayoz 20 hours ago
      There've been a half dozen of these popping onto the home page; probably flagged as dupes.
  • shmerl 21 hours ago
    What's his deal with being pro-Putin? Kind of weird unless it's the usual corruption.
    • MiroslavPokorny 21 hours ago
      Most south americans consider imperialism from the north the major concern today as yesterday and think the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
      • ceejayoz 20 hours ago
        Plus, tankies are a thing.
      • shmerl 19 hours ago
        So how does that make them support imperialist Putin? No logic there unless it's all about corruption as above, which is almost always the case with Putin's puppets.
        • Sabinus 18 hours ago
          For some reason Russia retains the anti-imperalist reputation of Soviet propaganda despite both being extremely imperial.

          I think it's because neither incarnation could do imperialism via a navy so all the countries not on the Russian periphery never experienced it.

          • shmerl 18 hours ago
            Yeah, soviets were imperialists as bad as they come, and modern Russia isn't any better. One must be really dumb to buy into such propaganda.

            Back then may be access to information was harder, but there is no excuse today.

            • MiroslavPokorny 13 hours ago
              The Russians may be imperialists but lucky for South American countries they rarely leave their neighbourhood and have never visited the western hemisphere.
    • JumpCrisscross 21 hours ago
      > What's his deal with being pro-Putin?

      Currently looks smart. Brazil’s one security concern is seemingly in Putin’s pocket.

      • shmerl 19 hours ago
        Being in his pocket is never smart. Europe learned it the hard way and still didn't even fully get rid of his gas blackmailing.
    • cassianoleal 12 hours ago
      He's not pro-Putin.
      • shmerl 5 hours ago
        He wants to sit on both chairs, benefiting from Putin and pretending he is not pro-Putin. It doesn't work that way.
        • cassianoleal 4 hours ago
          He doesn't. He negotiates with all leaders because he's a statesman. Russia is an important ally of Brazil in many areas, but that never stopped Lula from calling him out over Ukraine.
          • shmerl 4 hours ago
            Having basically a modern Nazi state as an important ally is a huge problem, which is exactly what I'm pointing out. I assume it's based on corruption, which is essentially another way to describe statesmen without values (i.e. he is willing to profit from Putin).

            Calling out is just a PR thing, he still has dealings with Putin as you say. I.e. as above, trying to sit on two chairs.

  • ivanmontillam 21 hours ago
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  • tefkah 21 hours ago
    Thank fuck