17 comments

  • nilslindemann 15 minutes ago
    Systemic racism within the German system has been proven [1], so the Bundeswehr is right to screen for it. I have experienced racists at work, at government offices and in everyday situations. A system consisting of such people does not properly work. We need some Goodwill.

    [1]: to name one: https://fgz-risc.de/forschung/inra-studie

  • awongh 25 minutes ago
    Link to the actual article: https://archive.is/kt3Aa
  • wheels 46 minutes ago
    How extreme do you have to be to get in?
  • antiloper 43 minutes ago
    Obvious AI generated article without citing any sources.
  • isodev 47 minutes ago
    I think that's a violation of the AI Act.
  • 127 47 minutes ago
    Every force has an equal and opposite force. The more you push, the more push-back you will get.
  • AmazingTurtle 29 minutes ago
    > If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.

    Interesting, why is this spam or off topic? This is absolutely an AI topic that needs to be discussed. Not off-topic. Moderation? Hello?

    • libertine 20 minutes ago
      The question could also be, is HN being targeted with bots, just like a Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook...
  • tesnorindian 42 minutes ago
    Curious to know which SOTA Frontier model did they use? Or an open weights model?
  • sammy2255 42 minutes ago
    Whos to say it's right or wrong? If I make a twitter profile impersonating a specific person and fill it with right-wing extremism will it get flagged by their process?
  • LawrenceKerr 42 minutes ago
    I guess left-wing extremism is okay? Like suppose you are a socialist, a nationalist and a socialist who wants to work for the Bundeswehr... that's perfectly fine then? (joking of course)
    • OKRainbowKid 9 minutes ago
      That's not very funny, and this reframing of nazis (national socialists) as left-wing because they have "socialist" in their name is an ongoing effort by right-wing populists and extremists.

      It is hard to tell from your joke whether you also mean to propagate that narrative.

  • kakacik 55 minutes ago
    Hopefully not musk's grok
  • roschdal 54 minutes ago
    ai prompt: "as a application reviewer for Deutsches Bundeswehr, search and identify applicants who have been rejected from Austrian art-schools." (I am not right-wing extreme)
  • mschuster91 55 minutes ago
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    • eunos 53 minutes ago
      But if you want to tackle the problem proactively, it's called surveillance.
      • mschuster91 50 minutes ago
        We can have humans do the job. Humans can exercise judgement, AI can not.
        • eunos 48 minutes ago
          Humans arent scalable and also have their own mistakes and bias
          • dudefeliciano 38 minutes ago
            Right because AI does not have bias and never makes mistakes. You can hold humans accountable at least.
    • gadders 46 minutes ago
      What's your definition of Nazi?
    • aa-jv 42 minutes ago
      AI is a big stick: for example, how will the men in boots identify the Scientologists, if they don't first read a bit of Scientology, eh? Ah, they get an AI to do it, so that they don't need to invest the effort to understand the subject.

      >Last thing I want in the hands of the Verfassungsschutz authorities is more fucking surveillance.

      German culture has a long way to go to rid itself of authoritarianism; the surveillance of the state is a symptom, not the cause. German cultural paranoia ends up manifesting the very thing it seeks to resist. I'm sure there are individuals in the Verfassungsshutz who also identify as anti-fascist - its the methods, not the motive.

  • hyperlinerapp 47 minutes ago
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    • jonathanstrange 42 minutes ago
      You dropped the extremism part, which always implies "anti-constitutional" in these contexts and by law.
    • yoavm 44 minutes ago
      Right-wing extremism in Germany is definitely not "normal people" for the most part.
    • denvrede 44 minutes ago
      I guess you missed the "extremism" part in the title. Don't start to play down the right-wing radicalization that is happening right now. You can be right-wing, no problem with that but that current "trend" is used by the more extreme forces in these camps to try to grab onto power and that should be avoided at all cost.
      • ttoinou 41 minutes ago
        Sure, then let’s call everything extreme then. Extreme center. Extreme democrats. Extreme liberalism. Extreme marxists.

        Sounds scary

        • denvrede 39 minutes ago
          What are you talking about, care to explain yourself?
  • b3n4kh 51 minutes ago
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    • lionkor 48 minutes ago
      There's nothing wrong with a social media presence. Just don't use it to talk about your political or social opinions.

      I'm aware a lot of people can't do that, because their personality consists of being of a certain ideology and they cannot shut up about it, but it's technically possible to just have a normal-ass presence online without pushing opinions or ideology beyond professional/technical ones.

      It's very simple -- this stuff is private. Your political opinions are private. Your social opinions are private. The internet isn't private.

      Talk to your friends about that stuff, in person, instead.

      • paganel 46 minutes ago
        > Just don't use it to talk about your political or social opinions.

        Why? What should we talk about instead as members of a polis? About endless consoomerism and other such hedonistic stuff?

        • lionkor 40 minutes ago
          Talk about science, facts, games, art, music, hobbies? As members of a polis I hope you understand that you shouldn't primarily meet in a public forum that is owned, surveilled and controlled by the parties in power?
          • dudefeliciano 26 minutes ago
            > science, facts, games, art, music, hobbies

            all these could be considered political. In my opinion they often are inherently political.

            science: evolution debate, climate change debate, who gets studied, what gets funded.

            facts: statistics (and who makes them), places names and borders (gulf of mexico vs america), textbooks (how is the history of slavery thought)

            games: censorship rules, didactic games, regulation in games, content and representation of mainstream videogames(evil brown terrorist vs good guy US marine)

            art: patronage, "degenerate art", monuments and their legitimacy vs their removal, looted art, protest art

            music: folk and protest music

            hobbies: cycling (any comment on bikes degenerates to a car vs cycles debate), DIY (right to repair, 3D printing regulation, open source culture)

    • chpatrick 50 minutes ago
      I think in Germany it has a pretty specific meaning actually...
      • OKRainbowKid 48 minutes ago
        It does, but I have the impression that would only get in the way of the narrative the original comment is trying to propagate.
      • gadders 44 minutes ago
        It does, but I've not seen many people goose stepping in SS uniforms singing the Horst Wessel song.
    • aqme28 47 minutes ago
      Are you trying to say that "remigrating all migrants from certain countries" is not actually extreme?
    • jonathanstrange 47 minutes ago
      Contrary to what you insinuate, the indicators for right wing extremism are well-defined.[1]

      [1] https://www.verfassungsschutz.de/SharedDocs/publikationen/EN...

    • hermanzegerman 46 minutes ago
      Stop the Bullshit.

      Right Wing Extremists in Germany are those who argue that citizens aren't really citizens because they are brown and need to be "remigrated" (despite Holding German citizenship, or even "native Germans" with the wrong political views)

      They also want to use Military Weapons for this

      And those who deny and continuously try to minimize and deny the crimes of the Nazis in WW2.

      But somehow those right wing crybabies are also always poor little babies that are just misunderstood and the perpetual victims.

    • altmanaltman 47 minutes ago
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  • ta20240528 54 minutes ago
    Surely its just any postcode east of Berlin?