NASA asked several former SR-71A staffers to help secret restart

(aviationweek.com)

47 points | by ilamont 14 hours ago

12 comments

  • justin66 0 minutes ago
    [delayed]
  • walrus01 26 minutes ago
    I'd be more astonished if there isn't something superior to the SR71 (likely unmanned) that has been flying around at night from facilities like Groom Lake for years. Look at how long the RQ180 was flying around in semi-public and known about before it became seen in daylight by plane spotters in Greece. And a long time before that there were public relations approved photos of the Lockheed Martin Polecat.

    There were a series of extremely public quotations from senior DoD officially recently about how they plan to aggressively retire the Global Hawk program (which is a mostly non stealth aircraft), reading between the lines it's because they have something much better.

    edit: for those who haven't seen the RQ180: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=RQ180+gre...

    edit 2 (apologies for the X link): https://x.com/MechDesignxyz/status/2041281689838584193

    • hilsdev 22 minutes ago
      I suspect everything comparable of late has been orbital, which begs the question what is it they’re worried about with orbital? Satellite warfare is already accelerating if the rumors are true, is it that this is untouchable still? Is there some new camera sensor where eliminating that extra atmospheric diffraction or slowing down (lol) is needed?
      • walrus01 19 minutes ago
        I am sure that the orbital capabilities are also vastly improved from what the public has ever seen. But I think there's likely a high degree of tactical value in having something that can keep station over a certain active conflict area (as an RQ180 can, maybe flying in a racetrack pattern at altitude, with sensors aimed down).

        If you've ever seen the publicly released videos and audio of an RQ9 operator in communication with ground units watching the activity of a group of men/vehicles on the ground, in live real time, something like that.

        As compared to periodic revisits by LEO orbit satellites that don't maintain persistent live coverage, or the extreme distance and data acquisition problem that aiming sensors in geostationary orbit at a 10x10km target area might pose.

    • stickfigure 17 minutes ago
      > I'd be more astonished if there isn't something superior to the SR71

      Makes me wonder if this whole operation is just public cover for something like that.

      • tclancy 8 minutes ago
        The problem is the people in charge now have not earned that kind of faith. If they’re truly trying to relight these things, my heart goes out in advance to the neighborhood in the Southwest that burns down before they rethink it.
      • walrus01 16 minutes ago
        Or something as mundane as cleaning up and fixing something that's been out in the weather for 20 years so it doesn't look shabby at the front gate of their base.
        • Waterluvian 14 minutes ago
          I don’t know anything but I can’t imagine they need specialists if it’s just a cosmetics job for a monument.
          • walrus01 9 minutes ago
            Or the whole "retired guy in his late 70s gives a quotation to aviation week" is a red herring intended for US adversaries, which seems like a fairly basic ruse, but might have been put together as a coordinated plan. It could have its own value of sending opposing nation state intelligence agencies and air defense people down a man-hour wasting dead end of investigating something that'll never happen.
        • dreamcompiler 5 minutes ago
          If they were doing that they would say so. In fact if they were smart they would say that regardless of the true story. The fact they aren't saying that means they're either stupid or playing 4D chess. I know which I'd bet on.
    • King-Aaron 18 minutes ago
      I know it's probably a forbidden topic around these parts, but the 'tic tac' thing that those FA18 pilots saw several years ago may be indicative of what Lockheed etc are flying up there. It's a hot topic in conspiracy circles but it wouldn't surprise me if a bulk load of ufo sightings were black projects being tested.
  • buildsjets 14 minutes ago
    NASA (Specifically, hotshot NASA administrator Jared Isaacman) is fixing to kill themselves some pilots.

    Trivia, SR71 backseater Colonel Robert J. Roetcisender, RIP, on the right in the image below, was the designated pilot examiner who did my private pilot checkride many many years ago. It was pretty intimidating. All he asked is that I make the flight as boring as possible.

    https://www.blackbirds.net/sr71/sr-crew-photos/SR71-crews/da...

  • whatshisface 24 minutes ago
    As time goes on, Warhammer 40k will become a better and better guide to current events, apparently. Only one question: after recovering this lost standard template constructor pattern, how will the rites be learned to appease such a venerated machine spirit?
    • post-it 20 minutes ago
      There were a lot of things we couldn't do in an SR-71000...
  • trevithick 30 minutes ago
    Why would they do this?

    > And Lockheed’s operational manuals for the SR-71A still exist—and are superb...

    I appreciate this level of documentation.

  • consumer451 24 minutes ago
    A-12 (Oxcart) pilots say that the SR-71 was the station wagon version :)
  • gaigalas 6 minutes ago
    The new planes (F-35) were supposed to supersede interceptors like the SR-71 (that's their multirole goal). If it can't, this is an embarrassment.
    • flkiwi 3 minutes ago
      What? The SR-71 was a strategic reconnaissance aircraft. It was not, and never was, an interceptor. And the F-35 was never tasked with replacing an interceptor, but is a slow-ish multirole aircraft with a heavy emphasis on strike capability. And the USAF hasn't had an "interceptor" in decades (single mission, short range, high speed, point defense aircraft).
  • yodon 28 minutes ago
    The SR-71 is cool, but this article is not at all confidence inspiring on many fronts.

    Guy being interviewed by a reporter about a secret project. A secret project that is trying to resurrect an antique plane that has been subject to weather and on display as a museum piece for many years.

    It sounds like a clown-show staged around a cool looking plane that's older than 90+% of HN readers.

    • caidan 9 minutes ago
      It’s almost certainly being done by clowns on the orders of one of the clowns in chief. Note that quote, “I would drop everything to work on that” said guy who did not in fact drop anything to work on that. Reading between the lines I can hear old Mr loaf belting out “I would do anything for love, but I won’t do that!”
    • imglorp 1 minute ago
      Clown show is my guess too. There's no utility for it other than rattling windows and other airshow shenanigans for bragging press releases.

      There are faster (X-43 is mach 9.6 but unmanned) and higher and stealthier ships. But unless you're going to dip into the classified catalog, a rusty SR-71 is faster than the next fastest two ships which are both MiGs.

    • ceejayoz 23 minutes ago
      > It sounds like a clown-show…

      Well, the President wants to redesign the Navy to look "cool" - battleships, carriers with steam catapults again and center islands. Why not the Air Force too?

      • snypher 1 minute ago
        I wish this were the case; if it were for cool points the F-117 would be back!
      • Waterluvian 12 minutes ago
        If you’re gonna have an Air Farce we’ll have to tariff you guys, eh?
  • swader999 41 minutes ago
    It's for a new Pepsi promotion
  • 0xbadcafebee 18 minutes ago
    To give you an idea how ridiculous this is: to start each engine, they made a cart out of two Buick V8 engines tied together - so four V8 engines to start the plane. Those V8 engines were long since out of production, so at one point they went around the country, to every junkyard, buying up every one of those V8s they could find, so they would have spares to start planes up in different places. If an SR71 had an issue and landed at an unusual airport, they had to fly the start cart and other equipment to that airport to start the plane again. Everything about this plane is expensive and one-of-a-kind. It's a hot rod that goes to space.
  • Computer0 35 minutes ago
    Reading the article, this does seem ill-advised.
  • DivingForGold 12 hours ago
    Bet Tom Cruise will be offering to allow him to use it for an upcoming movie thrilla
    • rbanffy 8 hours ago
      I wouldn’t mind, as long as the plane flies again.

      It’s a true marvel of engineering.

      • tclancy 5 minutes ago
        Not a trick to make an old plane fly again. The trick is holding it together and landing it.

        I would imagine the problem they have with the 70 year olds they’re trying to recruit is that there are old pilots and bold pilots but well, you know the rest.

    • pdonis 47 minutes ago
      Top Gun: Blackbird?
      • bitwize 41 minutes ago
        More like Mission: Impossible. Replete with a mini-doco about how Tom Cruise literally for reals skydove out of the Blackbird without a chute and landed on the enemy rocket in one take.