Bad Code Is Kudzu

(vickiboykis.com)

27 points | by surprisetalk 3 days ago

6 comments

  • YuechenLi 6 minutes ago
    I thought we solved the kudzu problem by having goats graze on them and rip them out by the roots, right? So maybe we should set goats on legacy git repos as well.
  • jamwise 19 minutes ago
    Bad code as an invasive species is the freshest take I've heard. I have a hard enough time arguing with people that tech debt isn't about bad code, but shifting priorities and requirements. This is going to be a really useful analogy for me going forward, thanks!
  • rzzzt 5 minutes ago
    The hardware auto-detection tool in Red Hat Linux was also called Kudzu, before udev times: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/NoMoreKudzu
  • omoikane 38 minutes ago
    Coincidentally, the same plant in Japanese is kuzu (クズ, or 葛), which shares the same pronunciation as the word for trash (屑). So bad code is trash.
  • ChrisMarshallNY 1 hour ago
    > as a way to combat soil erosion

    I heard it differently. I heard that it was imported for aesthetic reasons (like starlings).

    Nasty stuff. We're starting to see it up here, in New York. I remember it well, from Maryland.

    Yay climate change!

    I often "hit the reset button" on projects. It used to be waiting until the pain was great enough, but LLMs make it a lot easier.

    • cvoss 1 hour ago
      The article abridged the history too much. It was first imported as an exhibition of plants from Japan in 1876. It's usefulness as a ground cover in the US was understood later, and in the 1930s (Dust Bowl times) the USDA advocated farmers intentionally plant it as a way to hold down the soil. After that, you might say, it far exceeded its usefulness as a ground cover.
    • mc32 1 hour ago
      I’ve heard similar.

      The other thing is that its coverage estimation was off by at least an order of magnitude. It is a transition zone species. So they cover trees that are at the perimeter of forests or stands along highways. Back in the 70s aerial estimations were not as good as today’s. Their visual extrapolations were thus way, way off. It’s still a pest but it’s not “swallowing the South”.

  • rglover 7 minutes ago
    This is a wonderful analogy.