5 comments

  • culi 4 hours ago
    Trees "calculate" which branches to drop based on data they gather as they grow. A competent and experienced arborist knows how to read the tree and simply safely cut off the branches that the tree was already intending to drop so that it doesn't fall on your house or whatever. Inexperienced arborists often ignore this key dendrology fact and may totally butcher your tree. In the process they can create an even larger risk of a tree falling over onto your house during a storm

    It's called cladoptosis (basically self-pruning) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladoptosis

    EDIT: since I'm on the topic of bad tree trimming, NEVER TOP YOUR TREES https://www.arborday.org/tree-resources/dont-top-trees

    • vlyan 3 hours ago
      >NEVER TOP YOUR TREES

      they do it where I live because the branches bang against apartments' windows when it's windy. I don't think there's another low-maintenance solution.

      • culi 3 hours ago
        Coppicing or pollarding are both well-historied techniques that can be used to keep trees growing short. They differ significantly from topping and require a lot of expertise. They also have to be started when the tree is young
        • ajb 29 minutes ago
          This is often not useful advice, as it is common to acquire responsibility for a tree than has been badly managed. The GP's link actually gives a solution for this case: pruning more accurately over a slightly longer period.

          More generally, I've found as the maintainer of a building that while mainstream practices (of property generally, not specifically trees) often undershoot good practice, heritage techniques are often impractically expensive, and function more as a status signalling mechanism than really as a way of doing better. Even more generally, economy-wide; there is a tendency to criticise the mainstream but then promote expensive, semi-artisanal products and services, which while better, simply offer an escape valve to pressure for reform. Better techniques can only benefit the populace as a whole if they are cost reduced under the discipline of serving the mass market, not just offered as a premium version for the well-to-do.

    • argimenes 2 hours ago
      Fascinating! Where is this data stored? I love the idea of a Tree DB queried via TreeSQL.
      • Terr_ 13 minutes ago
        Because they B-Trees?
    • jalk 1 hour ago
      >NEVER TOP YOUR TREES

      Kind of annoying when all the fruit is several meters out of reach

    • mightysashiman 2 hours ago
      I'd like to grow bonzai. I have zero prior knowledge. I suppose what you mention applies. Would you happen to have any good resource that applies to bonzai science please?
  • zekefoppa 4 hours ago
    Imo the title here buries the lede: we've known that trees form tension wood in response to external stress. This study claims to find that trees will form it in response only to their own curvature, independent of external factors even including gravity. They compare it to proprioception. That's neat!
    • N_Lens 4 hours ago
      I thought ‘interoception’ might also be appropriate in this context.
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  • N_Lens 4 hours ago
    Let me take this opportunity to remind HN readers - Posture & Hydration Check!
    • emerongi 4 hours ago
      Or: drink when you feel thirsty and change your position when your back gets tired.
      • culi 3 hours ago
        Yes, the science has moved to "drink when you're thirsty" a long time ago and it's annoying how many people believe drinking 3 liters of water per day is a key tenant of human health.

        (most of) Our bodies are quite good at telling us when we should drink more water. You should never be forcing yourself to drink

        https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-mi...

        https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/313389

        All that being said, I'm not sure GP was necessarily endorsing the idea that you should drink a certain amount of water a day. I read it as a suggestion to pull away from the screen and listen to your body

        • dyauspitr 3 hours ago
          But why? unless it’s a copious amount of water like a gallon or more in an hour or two or something insane like that what is the problem with drinking water? I would assume it would just have positive effects.
          • culi 3 hours ago
            > "You can become dehydrated if you take in too little. And you can actually cause problems, such as exercise-induced low sodium or hyponatremia, if you take in too much," says Dr. Sara Filmalter, a Mayo Clinic family physician. "So the general rule of thumb at this point among physicians is to drink to thirst."
            • chrisweekly 1 hour ago
              I've often read (sorry, no citations handy) that by the time you notice / feel thirst, you've already been dehydrated for some time. And chronic (mild) dehydration is much more common than hyponatremia. I'll always err on the side of drinking water whenever it occurs to me (and deliberately starting my morning with 16-20oz on waking) instead of waiting to feel thirsty.
      • Zarathustra30 3 hours ago
        Some folks' interrupts are buggy, so they resort to polling.
        • layla5alive 3 hours ago
          ADHD hyperfocus disables most interrupts.. very task efficient, at the expense of all else :/