10 comments

  • zerolayers 0 minutes ago
    Was expecting something more concrete with a set of deliverables that can actually be acted on.
  • testfoobar 1 hour ago
    This is a bunch of fluff. I hope at least the snacks and lunches during the discussions were good.

    "Guiding principles: Be bold. Be humble. Put humanity front and center. Lean into learning. Teach with intentionality. No one size fits all."

    "Recommendations: Adapt educational processes for an AI-aware world. Center people, community, and the residential experience. Build processes, teams and tools for continuous reflection, iteration, and improvement"

    • rpaik 29 minutes ago
      It's going to be difficult not to be "fluffy" as no one really knows the true impact and what's going to happen. And it's especially challenging for universities as voices questioning the value of higher education will only grow louder.
      • BubbleRings 2 minutes ago
        I grew up with PC‘s starting with DOS 1.0. I built a career as a systems engineer, basically by being confronted with thousands of problems that took four hours to figure out because the Windows world was changing so fast there was no documentation to easily find your answer. Those same problems now take me five minutes to figure out by using AI, so I’m able to move onto the next challenge and learn the next thing. That’s one aspect that I think isn’t well recognized in the anti-AI mindset.

        That fact, multiplied over 1000 different disciplines, is one of the ways that AI is going to bring amazing progress to our world.

    • 123h-asdg 30 minutes ago
      They have always dressed it up as concerned humanitarianism. They did it already with large donations in the past:

      https://www.philanthropy.com/news/can-a-350-million-gift-cha...

      All concerns, while the real goal is stated right in the article:

      "With this new approach, he says, experts in many fields can gain a deeper understanding of AI so they can better harness it. Meanwhile, computing experts are gaining greater exposure to the work of their counterparts in other fields. That exposure is giving the technologists a better understanding of how to create and train AI tools to better serve others."

      I'm sure they will have many meetings about future meetings.

      • frognumber 19 minutes ago
        Makes me sick.

        MIT is so very, very overcapitalized.

        These things don't lead to anything other than a rich guy getting his name on a building, and more corruption in academia. By far the best thing which could happen to MIT would be for 95% of the endowment to go up in a poof of smoke, bringing it back to nineties levels. That's the end of the period when the Institute did high-integrity research.

        • jacobolus 1 minute ago
          It sounds like you want a return to a time before a lot of the government research money coming to institutions like MIT was gutted.
    • copperx 1 hour ago
      I hope AI was used to generate those empty words. What a waste of human effort.
    • jespinel 1 hour ago
      > This is a bunch of fluff.

      Accurate description.

      • mag7269 45 minutes ago
        “Boy, these guys are just [your typical Bill Lumberghs] with upper management written all over them.”
  • us-merul 1 hour ago
    I think this has been going on well before AI or LLMs: "A fundamental danger, as we’ve discussed, is that AI can allow students to bypass learning. Equally concerning is that students may internalize a transactional model in which assignments are outputs, teachers are evaluators, peers are optional, and knowledge (or an MIT degree) is an optimizable commodity to be acquired or produced as efficiently as possible."
    • miltonlost 45 minutes ago
      Ok, but did AI and LLMs make the cheating easier, faster, harder to detect? Whatabout the past doesn't change the problems now.

      "My leg already had a cut on it. No need to worry about the new stab wound in my chest!"

      • us-merul 41 minutes ago
        Absolutely; it's a real problem. But institutions like MIT have also been participating in, and benefiting from, this transactional relationship from their side in offering degrees that they know carry so much value.
  • intended 0 minutes ago
    [delayed]
  • phasefactor 1 hour ago
    "Be bold" by saying nothing of any interest. I have to agree that this is basically just fluff.

    Anyone put it into pangram yet?

    • 16bitvoid 1 hour ago
      97% human-written
      • phasefactor 43 minutes ago
        I guess prolific em-dashes is not considered a sign of LLM writing anymore.
        • tyrabound 27 minutes ago
          It's actually not em-dashes, they are en-dashes, which is either intentionally to deceive (e.g., swapped) or used incorrectly. Both of which are bad, it's up to everyone to decide on which is worse coming from MITality.
  • beej71 26 minutes ago
    I do like that they're open to reconsidering the grading paradigm wholesale. I taught at a boot camp for a while and our highest-placed cohorts were the ones to whom we gave neither grades nor certificates. They plainly understood the game was between them and an eventual interviewer, not them and the school or instructor.
  • UJ-FLD-ScrTr 56 minutes ago
    You can think what you like about MIT, but at least they're giving it some thought, however perfunctory it may seem. Many German universities prefer to try and ignore the issue and hope for the best.
    • ncr100 28 minutes ago
      How is this interesting? Sincerely?

      Tell us more about how MIT giving AI some thought compares superiorly to 'many German universities', and please tell us more about which German universities and in which circumstances.

      • UJ-FLD-ScrTr 11 minutes ago
        My statement was more of a dig at German universities than a compliment to MIT. I understand your criticism of this institution (which doesn't even exist in that form in Germany), but that doesn't mean I have to reflexively condemn everything from there.
        • ncr100 9 minutes ago
          Oh of course, I understand.

          I'm just ignorant to German universities. Honestly, the only thing I know of is not even University level German education, but just the concept of the German gymnasium system, and that was from when a exchange student visited my high school, in the 1990s!

          Thanks for the response. Cheers.

    • CalRobert 52 minutes ago
      I mostly think about what they did to Aaron Swartz.
      • UJ-FLD-ScrTr 20 minutes ago
        Regarding Swartz, I agree, but those are two different things. My statement was also more about the avoidance of the topic at German universities.
      • 123h-asdg 47 minutes ago
        They also formed committees and investigated after the fact back then!
    • DataDive 9 minutes ago
      This seems to have touched a nerve, based on the number of downvotes.

      In this particular case that makes the message more trustworthy for me ;-)

  • a2ff6eeb0 1 hour ago
    Education is so cooked. In 10 years, people arent going to find it useful financially. The AI will be better at economically relevant thinking.

    And there aren't enough hobbyist learners to sustain education at its current level.

    • tyrabound 20 minutes ago
      To be fair, the US education system has long been "cooked" due to policies implemented many decades ago now to sacrifice excellence, exceptionalism, and true merit for engineered social stability and ruling class profiteering and plunder.

      AI is an opportunity to improve true education and learning on an individual and community level based on free association without the authoritarian and violent hand of government imposing lowest common denominator uniformity on everyone to produce uniform and manageable, profitable pseudo-citizen cogs.

    • beej71 24 minutes ago
      I figure once it collapses I'll transition into being a tutor for some billionaire's kids at roughly triple my current salary. :)
      • DataDive 6 minutes ago
        Isn't that how Parasite starts?
  • jplusequalt 3 minutes ago
    I'm sick and tired of hearing about how LLMs are somehow going to cultivate a society of "creative people full of ideas" when increasingly the people who are using it the most are accepting the LLMs ideas without question.
  • 31aqi87 1 hour ago
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