7 comments

  • VBprogrammer 54 minutes ago
    A nearly 4:1 ratio makes a 25kg drone very interesting from a personal mobility perspective. Something you could fly a few miles with and then easily roll around an office. Sadly scaling in aerodynamics is notoriously non-linear.
    • close04 16 minutes ago
      > a conventional single-main-rotor helicopter that weighed 13.3 kg (29.3 pounds) and hauled 51 kg (112.4 pounds)

      I think this was the sweet spot for now and we'll need to wait for anything that maintains that ratio at double the carrying capacity.

  • bart__ 2 hours ago
    Interesting event, annoyingly bad written AI article
    • camkego 2 hours ago
      Slop city, it felt like I was having an LLM chat.
  • egormakarov 1 hour ago
    • somat 38 minutes ago
      Wow, there were a bunch of very interesting designs, Probably telling the winner was a very tradition design, but I love seeing wild stuff being tried.

      The kite copter was my favorite, but the large rotor powered by small tip rotors was a close second.

  • LoganDark 4 minutes ago
    Every post on this website looks AI generated but at least most of it doesn't feel like complete fluff.
  • rob74 2 hours ago
    Winning $ 1.25 million is great - but I wonder how they feel about not getting the full $ 2.5 million prize because they missed the 4:1 target by 4% ?
    • lnenad 1 hour ago
      They've probably got companies lined up to give them jobs that will pay multiples of those. The runner up is even more interesting, with a slightly larger reason to feel like they should have won it. They did ~3nm (out of 4 iirc) of 4.04:1 ratio.
    • Leonard_of_Q 1 hour ago
      They probably feel like the athlete who missed breaking a record, like the shipping company which just failed to load the goods in 4 trucks and now needs 5, like the painter who just needed that extra 50 cm on his ladder: "darn, so close".
      • euroderf 24 minutes ago
        Whatever happened to "Close enough for gummint work".
      • rob74 1 hour ago
        "Close, but only half the cigar"
    • huflungdung 1 hour ago
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  • dyauspitr 1 hour ago
    Hunh so for pure lifting our standard helicopter design is apparently the best. How did we stumble on the perfect design half a century ago? Was it sheer luck and constraints or can you actually do the math for this to work it out?
    • regularfry 1 hour ago
      The article makes reference to this being expected from the physics, but I don't think it's particularly intuitive why it should be the case. Unless it's as simple as smaller swept areas needing higher tip speeds for the same lift? That would make the energy loss to drag worse for multirotors.
      • snovv_crash 1 hour ago
        Higher aspect ratio blades are more efficient. It maximises disc area for a given mass of blade (linear-squared relationship). Blade is held straight due to tension not purely from torsional strength, so it can be made from a material with high tension strength like carbon fibre which is light. Also it positions the fastest moving blade area far out from the fuselage where there is less blown-drag.

        The downside is that the tail rotor is purely loss.

        Potentially a similar efficiency could be achieved with two large rotors, but then you end up needing to use cyclic roll to counter drag-induced cyclic yaw, or adding extra pitch mechanisms on each motor mount to make differential yaw.

    • somat 1 hour ago
      I am surprised it was not a coaxial design(think the mars copter, but designed for a real atmosphere)
    • ballooney 27 minutes ago
      For a given lift, a larger, lower speed rotor is strictly more efficient than a smaller faster one, all else being equal. So no surprises that when efficiency matters we don’t see quadcopter-type designs. The reason they became ubiquitous is because they are so mechanically simple, all the control can be done with cheap electronics, no need for the great mechanical complexity of a swashplate.
    • whatever1 1 hour ago
      We have also achieved optimal teapot design for perfect flow thousands of years ago.

      We have some times very good intuition and ideas.

  • abricq 47 minutes ago
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