Squeak/Smalltalk 6.1 Release Notes

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24 points | by fniephaus 1 hour ago

2 comments

  • avaer 40 minutes ago
    Just like learning Lisp will make you rethink programming languages, and learning Erlang will make you understand the true power of concurrency: learning Smalltalk will make you understand what "object oriented" actually means.

    I haven't used Squeak since college but I'm glad it was part of the cirriculum.

    Btw, almost all of Javascript's good parts come from Smalltalk.

    • addaon 26 minutes ago
      > almost all of Javascript's good parts come from Smalltalk

      Is this underselling the role of Self in JS’s prototype-based object system, or saying that a prototype-based object system is not one of the good parts?

    • ramesh31 25 minutes ago
      >Btw, almost all of Javascript's good parts come from Smalltalk.

      Like what, exactly? I'm genuinely curious. There is no root object or message passing in JS, and the OO aspects are only incidentally bolted on (classes don't actually exist, prototypal inheritance was an afterthought), named params are newer sugar, and polymorphism is a struggle due to all of the above. I've always thought of JS as what Crockford himself said: "a Lisp in C's clothing".

  • atemerev 23 minutes ago
    And after all these years, still no fixes for high-DPI displays. The UI is still pixely and slow. Perhaps I should take Fable and try myself, this was the only bug I cared about and it is not solved after 10 years at least.
    • sswezey 16 minutes ago
      Same, I've been tracking this and Pharo for high-DPI fixes. Pharo is working on a new graphics stack that is intended to address this as well, but until then no high-DPI support.