The most official water costs $120k a gallon

(signoregalilei.com)

69 points | by surprisetalk 4 hours ago

9 comments

  • sudb 2 hours ago
    Reminds of me of the "most expensive peanut butter" at ~$2.44/g - sold by NIST, I assume for some sort of peanut butter factory process calibration: https://shop.nist.gov/ccrz__ProductDetails?sku=2387
  • artisinal 1 hour ago
    This is why we should ditch Celsius for Kelvin. I never liked how we coupled 0 and 100 to where water freezes and boils under certain conditions. Kelvin doesn't rely on non-invariant reference points.
    • Guvante 1 hour ago
      You want numbers to be understandable and K produces illogical numbers.

      (There is a reason it is common to drop the century when talking about years, humans are less skilled at numbers over 100)

      And I know temperatures in Fahrenheit go higher but it is common to refer to Phoenix as "over 100" even when it's high can peak over 120.

      • zinckiwi 52 minutes ago
        That’s 02025 thinking.
      • thaumasiotes 32 minutes ago
        > (There is a reason it is common to drop the century when talking about years,

        Yep.

        > humans are less skilled at numbers over 100)

        No, the reason is that the century is constant and therefore carries no information. Where the century isn't constant, it never gets dropped.

    • warmdarksea 1 hour ago
      this is actually why i like fahrenheit the most... 0F is "really cold" and 100F is "really hot", whereas in celsius 0C is "kind of cold" and 100C is "uninhabitable". it makes sense for the 0-100 range to be reserved for temperatures frequently encountered in our habitat as humans i think...
      • Paracompact 1 minute ago
        OF will still kill you faster than 100F, and most folks aren't comfortable at 50F.

        It inspires the following idea: A nonlinear scale where ~72F is 0, and +X represents the same level of heat discomfort as -X represents cold discomfort.

      • wongarsu 54 minutes ago
        Celsius maps nicely to the temperatures observed in a typical Finnish sauna. 100C is among the highest typical sauna temperatures (very relaxing in dry air), and afterwards you cool off with water around 0C

        Also, having 100C as water temp for black tee and 80 for green tee is nice to remember

      • al_borland 41 minutes ago
        This has always been my primary argument in favor of Fahrenheit. It makes sense for humans, which is all a majority of the population really cares about. In addition, it's more granular. Sometimes turning the thermostat up or down by 1C could be too much, where 1F is just right.

        In science and math, I can see where having round numbers for commonly used temperatures would be useful, but if 0C and 100C are the only places that happens, it's not that hard to memorize 2 numbers.

      • ajmurmann 58 minutes ago
        This makes sense if weather is the main focus. For things like cooking Celsius is great though.
        • 0cf8612b2e1e 21 minutes ago
          I am failing to understand why there would be a distinction. They all seem arbitrary set points you learn.

          450F vs 230C does not feel like anything gets easier there. Maybe in some highly technical baking there are some nice deltas that appear?

        • clickety_clack 20 minutes ago
          Aren’t you just remembering specific numbers though? Unless you’re trying to boil water unseen so that you can only see a thermometer, the specific 100°C mark isn't that useful.
      • TylerE 52 minutes ago
        Also for things like hvac temps Celsius is rather too coarse where as 1F is right around the perceivable difference.
        • SketchySeaBeast 26 minutes ago
          There's nothing stopping the use of decimal points for Celsius. Though there's also nothing stopping decimal points in Fahrenheit, the rare instance where an imperial sub-unit doesn't make things go fucky.
      • clickety_clack 24 minutes ago
        I actually came around to Fahrenheit for the exact same reason. 0°F and 100°F are kind of the top and bottom of the temperature range I’m going to be experiencing and anything outside that is waaay too hot or cold. In Celsius a large portion of people have to flip to negative numbers regularly during the normal year, and everything between 45°C and 100°C is completely unused.
    • throwatdem12311 52 minutes ago
      Now do metric vs imperial.
      • artisinal 48 minutes ago
        Nothing screams freedom more than using ancient terms like horsepower and measuring tires in inches and percentages.

        The other day I heard an American talk about a TV being 65 inches. Took me a while to understand they had a 165 centimeter diagonal television.

        • clickety_clack 12 minutes ago
          I bet you’d use lightyears over petametres or exametres though.
        • alehlopeh 20 minutes ago
          Surely you mean tyres? It’s all arbitrary. Get over yourself.
      • Jblx2 33 minutes ago
    • analog31 1 hour ago
      I think that both the Celsius and Fahrenheit scales are now defined in terms of Kelvin and a formula. Most if not all of the units of measure are no longer related to their history except for an agreement to make the new units match the old ones at some point.
      • 0cf8612b2e1e 19 minutes ago
        The US is technically metric in that the units are defined in terms of the metric equivalent. A US inch is exactly 2.54cm.
    • xgulfie 1 hour ago
      Kelvin does still rely on each degree being 1% of the way between freezing and boiling so it kinda does rely on a variant reference point
      • chermi 1 hour ago
        The reference point is the triple point, and invariant.
  • spullara 1 hour ago
    A US gallon of deuterium water costs roughly $2,600 to $3,800, while a gallon of pure tritium water (super-heavy water) would cost about $44 million.
    • BizarroLand 49 minutes ago
      Makes me want to go to the ocean and start filtering out water somehow.
  • rwmj 1 hour ago
    Interesting article but left me wondering why they don't use H1_2 O16 as the "standard water"? Surely you can make that (relatively) easily in a centrifuge by spinning out the lightest fraction of water.
    • thayne 12 minutes ago
      At the very least that has the advantage that it's possible to make more of it, so you aren't dependent on a limited sample of standard water.
  • cactusplant7374 49 minutes ago
    How does the water taste?
  • pack_stimulus 2 hours ago
    Loved reading this. Thank you!
  • sandworm101 1 hour ago
    As specialized world-class lab supplies and reagents go, that is not very expensive. Stuff like pure Xe (for space thrusters) can be more by mass.
  • alanfalcon 2 hours ago
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  • dorianmariecom 1 hour ago
    gallon is not a si unit ;)