Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

(english.mapn.ro)

101 points | by _tk_ 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • comrade1234 2 minutes ago
    With the heatwaves and drought in Europe it's probably not the best time to have flaming wreckage falling from the sky.
  • cbg0 14 minutes ago
    As part of the SAFE EU financial instrument Romania is spending a lot of cash on defense measures for drones and other armament[1]. Currently still relying heavily on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard for anti-air as well as fighter jets with air-to-air missiles, as these recent drones were all brought down by F-16s.

    Aside from strategic targets, a lot of the civilian infrastructure is quite vulnerable to drone attacks as there's a huge border to cover and definitely not enough anti-drone tech deployed. An apartment building was hit months ago with no casualties: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/apartment-building-hit-...

    [1] https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/media/news-watch/news/2026/06...

  • walrus01 48 minutes ago
    URL appears to go to home page of RO military, another URL is: https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20260726-romanian-jet-sho...
    • jubilanti 28 minutes ago
      Nice to see a France24 link in the wild, it is a very underrated news outlet
      • walrus01 27 minutes ago
        France24 does a lot of very solid work related to one of my particular areas of interest in the Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan region. It's also a great alternative to any US news sources even for news about what's going on domestically in North America (though the CBC has more breadth of coverage, for sure).
        • sunaookami 9 minutes ago
          Just keep in mind that's literally owned by the French government.
          • Jolter 2 minutes ago
            That’s probably a factor in why it’s able to maintain such high quality.

            Though most French commercial media are not bad, either.

          • petre 1 minute ago
            Yeah, just like the BBC is owned by the British government. Less clickbait and scaremongering, I guess.
    • close04 40 minutes ago
      The home page shows 3 consecutive press releases for the past 3 days each detailing a similar incident.

      The first drone on 24.07 took ~80min to intercept and shoot down, well into the country. The other 2 were shot down within kilometers of the border so they’re paying closer attention.

      • bestham 23 minutes ago
        The asymmetry between the drones and the F16 neutralising them quickly makes this financially unsustainable.
  • an0malous 43 minutes ago
    Why are these drones so easy to shoot down, but the ones invading airspaces over nuclear bases and other sensitive installations hundreds of times for months all over Europe and the east coast of the US were never shot down or tracked even once?
    • Kubuxu 28 minutes ago
      Because Shahed 131/136 are large, way larger than surveillance drone/quadcopter. We are talking 2-3m wingspans and 130-200kg launch mass.
    • rolisz 40 minutes ago
      There are many more that are missed in Romania :)
    • ozarkerD 42 minutes ago
      Because they were being flown by their respective governments.
  • cmiles8 48 minutes ago
    We seems scarily only one rogue actor or screw up from WW III in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
    • fc417fc802 45 minutes ago
      Don't we already have that? It's just a smoulder instead of a conflagration.
      • xedrac 24 minutes ago
        Do you feel threatened that Russia and Iran will succeed in conquering all of Europe and the Middle East? I see it more like a couple of misbehaving misfits. That's very different than say, WWII.
        • mcv 14 minutes ago
          The main threat to Europe is if Trump ever makes good on his threats to take Canada and Greenland. If the US turns truly hostile, then Europe has a serious problem. Especially if Putin and Trump decide they want to split Europe between the two of them.

          It's a very extreme case, but it would get extremely messy. Putin on his own is something Europe should easily be able to handle as long as they've got Ukraine on their side. Trump's erratic disruptive attacks will hopefully end at some point. I'm not worried about Iran at all, except internally.

        • hiddencost 13 minutes ago
          Where the misbehaving misfits are the aggressors, i.e Russia, the USA, and Israel?
        • inglor_cz 15 minutes ago
          Well, not even the Nazis managed to permanently conquer Europe, but the destruction they still wrought on the continent was enormous.

          Even a victorious war is destructive. I'd like to do without, but I am just a random hobbit in this regard.

    • zer00eyz 7 minutes ago
      That is the point of these "one offs".

      My read on the situation is that Putin knows that he's stuck, and baiting nato into some (likely tepid) response gives him an excuse to expand the next call up / draft.

  • Insanity 34 minutes ago
    Given how poor their Ukrainian war is going, this is a strange move. I guess it’s mostly just posturing?
    • cingraa 16 minutes ago
      These are cheap decoy foam drones with less electronics. The amount of fuel decides how far they fly. Favorable wind? They fly further.
      • embedding-shape 11 minutes ago
        > The amount of fuel decides how far they fly. Favorable wind? They fly further.

        Is this true for non-decoy non-foam drones and basically everything else that flies, even things with solid boosters? Seems like a strange part to add here as it basically applies to aviation in general, replace "fuel" with "stored energy" and literally all type of "vehicle" fits basically.

    • cbg0 25 minutes ago
      It offers valuable information on response time.
    • inglor_cz 17 minutes ago
      It is ye olde reconnaisance by the tip of the bayonet. How long can you prod before someone says "ouch!"

      For the case of a hot war, knowing the detection and destruction capabilities of your future enemy is valuable.

    • benj111 23 minutes ago
      They've been doing this for years.

      I don't know if it's to try and circumvent Ukrainian defenses or to provoke a reaction to sell to domestic audiences though.

    • mike_hock 20 minutes ago
      Move by whom? Drones straying from the intended route is usually caused by jamming from the other side.

      Escalating tensions between Russia and NATO is in Ukraine's, not Russia's, interest.

  • sneak 33 minutes ago
    AIUI Russia has been regularly intruding into Finnish airspace and has often penetrated the land border with Georgia.

    It’s one of those “let’s see how much we can get away with” probes to try to establish a new status quo. I wonder how Russia would respond to NATO drones doing the same.

  • miohtama 36 minutes ago
    Because Russian's war with Ukraine is unsustainable, something has to change for Putin for him to remain in power, and one option is an escalation with NATO.

    Some other scenarios also explained in this good video

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYFSGkaAc&pp=iggCQAE%3D

    • Mistletoe 10 minutes ago
      Luckily being 73 and in what appears to be poor health can’t last forever. I can’t imagine spending my twilight years being one of the most hated people on the planet, but the head of the USA and Russia seem to have no issues with that.

      “Father Time is undefeated.” - LeBron James

    • anticodon 20 minutes ago
      What? In other words, you're saying: "Russia is losing war with Ukraine, so it wants to start a second front with bigger enemy".

      Also, how's Ukraine war is sustainable for Ukraine? It's economy is non-existent (almost 100% dependent on western donations), it has less than 50% of population of 2022 (they don't publish any population stats directly, but if you combine available statistics, there are about 10-15 millions left most of them old retired people or young people that are too young to send them to the front lines), they are losing territory every day.

      This is some weird "Ukraine is winning but front is moving in the wrong direction" logic.

      • kasey_junk 2 minutes ago
        A war doesn’t need to be sustainable for Ukraine, it’s existential. For the aggressor that backstop doesn’t exist. They could literally stop the war anytime they wanted so they need to continue to prove it’s sustainable to keep doing it.
      • leonidasrup 0 minutes ago
        Not all wars have a simple way to say who is winning, who is loosing. See the Vietnam war, different Afgan wars.
      • mcv 1 minute ago
        Ukraine is gaining some ground, but very slowly. It's basically a stalemate. Except that Ukraine is making the war extremely costly for Russia with the recent attacks on refineries and other targets deep into Russia.

        As long as the EU keeps supporting them, I think Ukraine will be better able to maintain the current situation than Russia. But Ukraine is nearly as exhausted as Russia, and I think a European coalition sending real practical ground and air support would help a lot. I suspect sufficient support could force a breakthrough in southern Ukraine an liberate a very large chunk of land very quickly.

        The reason that's not happening is either that NATO thinks this would give Putin the excuse he needs for large scale mobilisation, or simply because Europe is afraid to get its hands dirty. I don't think the former is nearly as big an issue as some believe; Putin has never needed any action from NATO or EU members to justify escalation, and has never responded to imagined red lines getting crossed.

        The latter is more likely. I think Europe needs to remember the sacrifice that Canada and the US brought to liberate Europe in WW2, and recognise the moral obligation that creates to liberate others in a similar position. Like Ukraine today.

      • tclancy 10 minutes ago
        I think you’re misreading the comment and conflating Putin’s survival with the current war. I believe the OP is saying the administration can’t keep selling the war with Ukraine as a good idea indefinitely and will need to pivot to something more marketable. In our Internet-shaped world, everything is entertainment. This particular show has run its course and needs a pivot, add new actors, make a Very Special Episode or kill off one of the main characters.
    • cingraa 14 minutes ago
      Does not pass the smell test. The Youtuber has an axe to grind. Also, tracking in the URL.

      Why make it more difficult if the current situation is unsustainable? Does not make sense.

  • dvduval 48 minutes ago
    The big part that I didn’t see was whether this was a Russian drone or Ukrainian drone
    • olexsmir 20 minutes ago
      Shahed drones are used only by russia and iran
    • rwmj 42 minutes ago
      They're Shahed drones, used by Russia.
      • romaaeterna 22 minutes ago
        In September the Russians accused the Ukrainians of having repairing downed Geran drone airframes at the Lviv LORTA plant, transferring them to Yavoriv, and launching them unarmed into Poland. They presented various evidence like serial numbers, photographs of silver-tape repairs, claims that a Ukrainian SIM-card was used, lack of impact destruction, etc.

        What's true though? I don't believe that I have a way to find out.

        • cbg0 13 minutes ago
          A safe option is to avoid trusting an aggressor, which has no business being in Ukraine and that can pack up their bags and leave at any time.
        • arcticfox 15 minutes ago
          Russian credibility is at ~zero IMO. They've put forth so many insane theories related to this war that they started.

          And just on first principles, how stupid would the Ukrainian have to be to do such a thing to their biggest ally? It almost beggars belief.

        • cyclopeanutopia 0 minutes ago
          портянка
    • ur-whale 42 minutes ago
      > I didn’t see was whether this was a Russian drone or Ukrainian drone

      From the france24 article:

      > A government investigation reportedly identified the first of the three drones as a Shahed model used by Russia in its war with Ukraine.

  • esseph 50 minutes ago
    Drones shot down in Romania, Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Finland, etc.

    These are probes. Judging responses and response times.

    Rumor is Polish GROM have been inside Russia for months.

    • cingraa 11 minutes ago
      Occam's razor. Decoy drones with a bit more fuel or favorable wind.
    • notathrowaway51 36 minutes ago
      Can you elaborate on the last sentence? It sounds crazy.
      • gattr 26 minutes ago
        I watched a related Chris Cappy video the other day:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RBY1cY-GF8

        > Poland's elite GROM commandos have become legendary (...) in this episode, we explore (...) the covert war between Poland and Russia, and why Polish-speaking commandos are appearing inside Russian territory.

      • Kubuxu 26 minutes ago
        There are rumours that Polish GROM has been taking “vacations” in Ukraine. As in “we cannot officially approve your presence there but we won’t stop you either”, from the government.
      • matkoniecz 28 minutes ago
        yes, it is a big [citation needed] for me
  • officialchicken 24 minutes ago
    What does this have to do with startups?
    • firefax 8 minutes ago
      >What does this have to do with startups?

      You know, I used to have this style view when reading and commenting Slashdot, pre-9/11 about anything other than "the tech".

      Afterward, in high school, I began to feel that understanding the foundations of geopolitics can help you maintain an advantage in the business world.