An American Privacy Emergency

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169 points | by flowercalled 2 hours ago

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  • alexpotato 1 hour ago
    One of my favorite recently learned facts about Congress:

    Federally mandated parental leave (paternity and maternity leave) polls at about 80% in favor with the US adult population. This is regardless of political affiliation, by the way. Democrat and Republican voters both support it.

    Upon reading this, you might be surprised as to why it's NOT federally mandated given how popular it is.

    One group it's NOT popular with is corporations. And corporations donate a lot of money to politicians. And it's cheaper to donate to politicians who are against parental leave than it is to pay people for that parental leave.

    I enjoy sharing this b/c it's a reminder that there are groups who spend a lot of time and money to get their way. At first, that might feel overwhelming. You might be surprised to know that when you call your local congressperson, those calls gets tallied b/c they want to know what their constituents care about. So give them a call and let them know.

    • thayne 3 minutes ago
      From the responses I've gotten from my representatives when I've written them, my impression is they care a lot more about their corporate sponsors and the party line than they do about my their constituents.
    • Fomite 1 hour ago
      One of the things I have found so alarming about a lot of recent revelations is just how cheap congress goes for.
      • vineyardmike 20 minutes ago
        I only-kinda-jokingly say that I'd be willing to be the sacrifice and get a second mortgage on my house if it could buy the entire nation some new rights.

        Our politicians routinely sell out smaller issues for "downpayment in a coastal metro" level of money. It's just about within reach of a middle-class urban adult to directly fund with some personal sacrifices.

        I feel like we like to imagine that these corporations are budgeting big-bucks to bribe/lobby politicians, because they have more money than most humans can actually mentally picture, but their budgets are often closer to a small team of software engineers' salary. Meta spend ~$25M on all lobbying last year - and they're the top corporate spender. That's under 1 hours of revenue for them.

      • janalsncm 20 minutes ago
        In that case, maybe it would make sense for regular people to create their own PACs. Like a privacy PAC. Pay for lobbyists who are more persuasive than our angry emails.

        As they say, freedom ain’t free.

      • tzs 31 minutes ago
        Watch out though because many of those revelations are bogus and only look at how much money people lobbying for a position donated to some member of Congress who voted for that position. They fail to look up how much money people lobbying against that position donated to that same member of Congress.

        Often times it is about the same amount, which means you cannot infer that the money influenced the vote.

        Some do it right, but enough do not that unless you know you are getting the information from one of the ones who does it right you really need to check for yourself.

      • nelsondev 55 minutes ago
        I believe $50-100k
      • georgemcbay 48 minutes ago
        > One of the things I have found so alarming about a lot of recent revelations is just how cheap congress goes for.

        The executive branch is also available for relatively bargain basement prices!

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    • jmyeet 28 minutes ago
      This has been studied, famously by Princeton [1]. The chance of any given bill passing is roughly 30% and any amount of public support from 0% to 100% has almost zero impact on that 30%.

      Elected offices have become fiefdoms to enrich oneself and maintain the status quo. Anyone who bucks this trend has historically rarely gotten into office or been chased out once they do. This could be from funding another candidate, simply starving an existing candidate of campaign funds or in some cases by redistricting somebody out of a seat.

      And look at the reelection rates for Congress [2]. They tend to hover between 90% and 95%.

      [1]: https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba

      [2]: https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/reelection-ra...

    • hahahaa 1 hour ago
      If a million people want it and it is worth $100 to them they could create a superpac for this with $100m funding?
    • baranul 55 minutes ago
      Well, if you think money in politics or corporations buying politicians is bad now, it is going to get exponentially worse in the USA. The Supreme Court recently gave a decision that allows the rich oligarchy to give unlimited amounts of money[1] to their favorite puppets... excuse me, politicians.

      [1]: https://www.npr.org/2026/06/30/nx-s1-5827039/supreme-court-c...

    • 8note 58 minutes ago
      if DSA gets enough people in, that might go through?

      pretty directly within the realms of what their candidates support, and they have a pretty good purity test to tell who to support or not with the genocide question

    • anonymousiam 54 minutes ago
      Free housing, free food, free health care, and free income are also wildly popular with the US adult population. The problem is that those things are not really "free" because somebody else needs to pay for them.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

      • acdha 46 minutes ago
        You’re confusing free to the user with free to the government. Those are all great examples of things which make huge differences in the lives of the people who need them while having no meaningful impact on taxpayers (forget Jeff Bezos, none of us would significantly change our lives if we paid for childcare or housing out of general fund revenue, and that’s before you factor in how much money we’d save getting better treatment with universal healthcare — every time I’ve done the math comparing us with Denmark, it’s been roughly even once you factor in how much we pay for insurance).

        Part of how you can tell it’s not the cost motivating opposition is that this concern is never applied to defense spending.

      • King-Aaron 31 minutes ago
        > The problem is that those things are not really "free" because somebody else needs to pay for them.

        This line of thinking is exactly why America is sliding backwards.

        It is not a problem to pay for things provide a net benefit to society.

      • NDlurker 52 minutes ago
        Better to spend money on helping our neighbors than going around the world murdering people
        • pixl97 50 minutes ago
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      • janalsncm 18 minutes ago
        On the healthcare front it’s not even a question. We are already paying via insurance and deductibles and copays etc. W2s don’t see most of the cost because their company pays it.
      • vor_ 21 minutes ago
        Yet we apparently have money for military parades and wars and ballrooms. Go figure.
      • anubistheta 26 minutes ago
        Exactly. Giving people free stuff is extremely popular. If people actually want those things, we can collective open our wallets and pay for it. But that changes people's opinions quite radically.
        • rexpop 0 minutes ago
          "It costs money, therefore it's impossible."

          You think social democrats never heard of a balanced budget? I don't know how you "fiscal conservatives" take yourselves seriously.

        • vor_ 17 minutes ago
          Does it? I'm skeptical. In fact, we apparently have more than enough money for it because we suddenly have billions to spend on war in the Middle East.
      • urbnspacecowboy 47 minutes ago
        "Somebody else needs to pay for" warmongering, too, yet there's nowhere near as much hand-wringing about how "somebody else needs to pay for them".
      • jmyeet 37 minutes ago
        This is such a straw man argument. Consider health care.

        The US spends by far the most per-capita on health care of any OECD country [1]. It's roughly 50% more than the number 2 on the list, which is Switzerland, a notoriously expensive country. Yet (almost?) every other country on that list has universal healthcare. Yet life expectancy is lower than Costa Rica [2] and generally health outcomes are worse in the US than most OECD nations.

        So providing universal healthcare would actually be cheaper overall but it would destroy a health insurance companies, which are nothing more than parasitic rent-seekers. There would be less spending per capita but a lot of that spending would be made by the government rather than companies. So you'd need to tax to cover that cost, which would be significant, but it would be overall cheaper.

        Now consider housing. We treat it as a speculative investment rather than something to provide shelter. There is absolutely no reason for it to be as expensive as it is. All we're doing is a massive wealth transfer from the young and poor to the old and rich. Yet we, as a society, choose to prioritize landlord and speculator profits over people, quite literally, dying in the street.

        Food? We produce an abundance of food, more than we can eat. There is absolutely no reason anyone should go hungry in any OECD nation, ever. We destroy food to protect profits.

        As for income, people generally want to be paid enough to live on, something that's becomign increasingly difficult. And again, we choose minting billionaires at a stupendous rate (and now trillionaires) over paying people a living wage.

        [1]: https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/2025/11/health-at-a-gla...

        [2]: https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/2025/11/health-at-a-gla...

        • cassonmars 31 minutes ago
          The problem with attempting to provide universal healthcare in the united states is that, despite health professionals attesting to the necessity and validity of certain health related topics, the current administration in particular is very keen about stripping away access to these forms of care, as far as they legally can (medicare/medicaid, VA, federal funding).

          UHC requires the removal of politicians from qualified input, and this country's politicians love nothing more than to get overly involved in things they know nothing about.

  • onetimeusename 14 minutes ago
    There has been debate among statisticians and political scientists about using differential privacy for census data. 2020 was actually the first Decennial Census that used differential privacy. This is the mandated census done every 10 years that counts population and is used for apportionment. Some have criticized the use of differential privacy.[1][2] But others have argued that coarsening does not protect privacy sufficiently and that differential privacy does not distort apportionment.

    The political context is unclear. There are lawsuits about whether differential privacy is constitutional. There is also the possibility that citizenship status can be inferred by using multiple census products put together. It's also possible redistricting is at stake although it's unclear to me how getting rid of differential privacy benefits any one party.

    [1]: https://apnews.com/article/business-census-2020-technology-e...

    [2]: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abk3283

    • _alternator_ 9 minutes ago
      I'd like to emphasize that coarsening is not just theoretically non-private, a number of attacks that lead to leaking personally identifiable data were demonstrated on the 2010 census. So it's not really a he-said/she-said situation.
  • qrush 2 hours ago
    This post's call to action is talking to your legislators, but it's missing a link to do so. Find yours here: https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
  • throwaway27448 53 minutes ago
    In china, the state manages capital. In this country, capital manages the state.
  • bo1024 52 minutes ago
    What is the political goal behind this directive? I assume there is some completely non-subtle purpose, but I can't tell what it is.
  • greyface- 2 hours ago
  • nl 2 hours ago
    Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48517377

    It's too bad this has become political.

    I do differential privacy work for GDPR compliance and it's an interesting technology.

    • giancarlostoro 1 hour ago
      > I do differential privacy work for GDPR compliance and it's an interesting technology.

      You mean legislation?

      • nl 1 hour ago
        No?

        We do GDPR-compliant reporting by using differential privacy to provably remove PII.

  • jmyeet 1 hour ago
    Yeah, calling your legislators is going to do precisely nothing [1], just like data centers are almost universally opposed by the communities and the negative externalities are way more real and direct. Yet they keep getting approved anyway.

    The true crisis here is in the captured political system.

    In the 1990s in Australia a racist, white supremacist party arose called One Nation through a very weird confluence of events that led a racist fish and chip shop owner by the name of Pauline Hanson to become a member of parliament. It was almost 30 years ago she gave her now famous miaden speech to Parliament [2].

    After some scandals, One Nation kind of disappeared for awhile, in part because the conservative coalition (of the Liberals and Nationals) basically adopted the racist platform in the early 2000s where asylum seekers were effectively scapegoated. But weirdly she's back now. Anyway, that part isn't the point.

    Australia has a preferential voting system, what tends to be called ranked choice voting in the US. You generally have two options on how to vote: you can individually number candidates yourself or you can use the registered preferences for a given party. In this case you put a "1" in Australian Labor Party, Australian Greens or whatever. A lot of people do this so preferences matter. Anyway, One Nation had a strategy of voting gainst the incumbent with preferences. So if it was a Liberal seat, the preference went to Labor and vice versa. This scared the bejsus out of the political establishment such that the opposing political parties gave preferences to each other over One Nation, leading to One Nation getting no seats in Parliament despite getting 10%+ (at its original peak) of the popular vote.

    My point here is that too many politicians and political parties view their seat as something that belongs to them. In the US primaries are treated largely as a formality by the parties for their anointed candidates. Re-election rates in Congress have sat at 95%+ for decades.

    What's interesting is that the Demoratic Party is almost in open revolt currently and over the past few weeks, several long-term (10-30 years) incumbents have been primaried by insurgent candidates.

    Here's a funf act I learned this week. It's been ~18 years since Citizens United basically got rid of campaign spending limits. A third of all the money spent since then has been spent this year on primaries. Thomas Massie has $35M+ spent against him in his primary, making it the most expensive in US history. Many others are in the millions. It's estimated that the total spending for the Senate seat in Maine will push $400M. For one Senate seat.

    All of this is a long way of saying that the only thing that will work is making these legislators fear they'll lose their cushy positions. And really if somebody has sat in office for 30 years and has nothing really to show for it, it's time for them to go.

    [1]: https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba

    [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2ypTX9ntTQ

    • dhotson 1 hour ago
      Heya, fellow Aussie here. Have you ever tried contacting your local MP?

      I was cynical at first like you, thinking why bother. But when I tried it, turned out I was wrong and I actually had a pretty good experience!

      The way I see it now, is that MPs aren't always in a good position to get close to the facts, so when you get in touch and tell them what you think.. you're actually giving them a huge gift.

      It can actually be pretty effective, especially for state/local issues. For federal stuff, sure, might not be as good, but you'll at least get some satisfaction from getting an acknowledgement from their chief of staff or secretary.

    • an0malous 34 minutes ago
      Ranked choice voting would go a long way, the two-party system is an intentionally forced false dichotomy like when parents give their kids the choice to eat broccoli or carrots so they’ll think it was their decision. Both parties are controlled by the investor class.
    • idle_zealot 1 hour ago
      Agreed: sure, call your representative. If they're cagey or noncommittal, do what you can to get their ass primaried. Every "moderate" will absolutely sell you into a Panopticon.
    • onetokeoverthe 1 hour ago
      ask tom s. in california if all that spend guarantees anything.

      more urgent is to repair the broken election process especially in california where it now takes 30+ days to "count" the votes.

  • aosmith 1 hour ago
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    • cwillu 1 hour ago
      The article is about the ban on differential privacy and other modern privacy techniques in use with the census and similar, not social media.
    • bogwog 1 hour ago
      Warning: this is AI generated. Don't actually trust it to be secure.
      • fragmede 56 minutes ago
        Of course there's AI in the mix, it's 2026. Are there specific issues you can point out, or are you just casting aspersions?
        • aosmith 41 minutes ago
          Thanks mate... That's exactly why it's open source, merges welcome. If somebody finds a problem they can fix it and take credit.
        • throwaway27448 51 minutes ago
          Well the ai part implies it's trash
      • aosmith 1 hour ago
        Huh? I'm pretty sure I'm a person. But AI would say that too...
        • bogwog 1 hour ago
          I was (obviously) referring to the project that you linked to, not saying you are a bot. Github contributors page shows the whole thing was vibe coded: https://github.com/aosmith/cipher/graphs/contributors
          • aosmith 1 hour ago
            You're right and I'm generally not a fan of vibe coding but I'm not trying to make money and it's free YMMV.
            • cwillu 51 minutes ago
              You didn't even bother to check if there's any relevance to the article before posting your vibe-coded project.
        • nickvec 1 hour ago
          bogwog is saying that your site/product is obviously vibecoded based off of the frontend
    • foresto 1 hour ago
      > Direct P2P connections using Iroh gossip protocol over QUIC

      How does it handle NAT traversal?

      • aosmith 1 hour ago
        Multiple ways, some from the bittorrent / limewire days, some using public stun / turn servers.