Nintendo has raised its employees base salary by 10%

(mynintendonews.com)

179 points | by _tk_ 2 hours ago

11 comments

  • epsteingpt 55 minutes ago
    I recently heard that a trip to Popeye's for a family of 3 recently cost $68 in Florida.

    In Japan, there's a big issue when a snack raises its price 2 cents (3 yen - source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/japanese-snack-company-apolog...)

    The country for better or worse seems to be frozen in time - salaries have not caught up with the heady levels of SV (or even Europe) but neither have rents or prices for common goods.

    This is not a judgment either way - but it does make Japanese exports a significantly more lucrative business - if only they could figure out how to sell more of their stuff abroad!

    • Anon1096 41 minutes ago
      > In Japan, there's a big issue when a snack raises its price 2 cents

      No, there really isn't. You're looking at one company that "apologized" as a marketing play but outside of that prices have been increasing with no fanfare for years now. The annual inflation rate has been 2-3% for the past 4 years. It's a lot less interesting to write a news article about that though.

      https://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/cpi/158c.html

    • isakmarr 2 minutes ago
      > In Japan, there's a big issue when a snack raises its price 2 cents

      That can't be true. So inflation just doesn't exist in Japan?

      • rjh29 2 minutes ago
        Historically, no. Prices were basically flat for a long time until covid.
    • woodruffw 10 minutes ago
      I can't say I've ever been to Popeye's, but $68 for 3 people seems unlikely based on their online prices: I picked a random one in Orlando, Florida and the "family meal" (which appears to be a very large amount of chicken) is $20.

      The closest thing would be the "16Pc Classic Signature Chicken Family Meal," which is $55.69 at that location and is described as feeding between 6 and 8 people. So you'd need to tip a bit to get to $68 from there.

      • Retric 7 minutes ago
        Did you include tax?

        Also, that meal doesn’t include drinks. Poppies is significantly cheaper if you’re taking it home and supplementing with your own drinks.

    • missedthecue 32 minutes ago
      In Japan, inflation adjusted wages are down 2% over the last 20 years. In the same time frame in the US, they're up 20% and even for the bottom quartile, earnings are up 15%.
    • weikju 31 minutes ago
      > but neither have rents or prices for common goods.

      All the price increases over the last few years disagree.

  • cautiouscat 15 minutes ago
    Nintendo gets a lot of flak for how they treat consumers and how litigious they are. However I get the impression they treat their employees very well in Japan. Like when the Wii U flopped, execs took a pay cut to avoid layoffs.

    No company is perfect, but Nintendo seems like an example some C-suites should follow.

    • weberer 12 minutes ago
      Its not even like they indiscriminately shut down fan projects either. Just the ones that try to make money. You still have sites like Pokemon Showdown and Advance Wars By Web that have been running for several decades without incident.
      • SSLy 8 minutes ago
        they indiscriminately shut down any sight of online smash tournaments
        • shimman 3 minutes ago
          Probably for the best seeing how many literal degenerates and sex pests there are in the scene, what with Nintendo being a family company and all.
    • solenoid0937 3 minutes ago
      When I was a kid this Japanese guy from Nintendo used to live next to us. He gave me the Nintendo DS before its official release for my birthday. It was pretty cool.
  • rootsudo 55 minutes ago
    This does not apply to Nintendo of America, which famously does underpay in the Redmond, WA area and well.. I hear has trouble truly attracting talent in the first place.
    • Wowfunhappy 50 minutes ago
      How much does Nintendo of America really do? It's basically localization and marketing, right? And maybe outreach to third party developers?

      I would imagine they're able to underpay due to the allure of working for Nintendo combined with a lack of actual positions.

      • CM30 44 minutes ago
        They do have at least one development studio there, Nintendo Software Technology:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Software_Technology

        They also make quite a few more changes than expected when localising games. Or at least they did in the olden days, where the American versions of games sometimes had different/extra features compared to the Japanese originals.

        I think some of the localisation team are also regular voice actors for the games, on a worldwide basis.

        • Wowfunhappy 6 minutes ago
          > They do have at least one development studio there, Nintendo Software Technology.

          Oh, interesting! The list of games isn't particularly impressive though, a lot of ports and remakes. Compare that to also-US-based Retro Studios, which isn't considered under Nintendo of America from what I understand.

      • mothballed 23 minutes ago
        I'm sure they've employed an army of lawyers for US IP law which isn't something easily reproducible in Japan.
    • Bluescreenbuddy 32 minutes ago
      Game devs in general underpay unless you're high up.
    • dismalaf 19 minutes ago
      US tech wages are insanely inflated compared to, well, everywhere.
      • snapcaster 1 minute ago
        I hate this crab in a bucket framing. It's so anti-working person. Why isn't it that wages are insanely deflated compared to the US?
  • oceanhaiyang 1 hour ago
    For someone in Japan this is shockingly high! Money doesn’t go far here at all
    • seandoe 1 hour ago
      Err does go far, right? Japan is pretty cheap in my experience.
      • kdheiwns 57 minutes ago
        Vietnam is even cheaper.

        The problem is you get paid in a roided up currency and it's a fun vacation for you. The locals get paid awful wages and a single night at an hotel for a typical person here is a whole month's rent for them.

      • collinmcnulty 1 hour ago
        This is largely a function of exchange rates. If you are paid in USD, then Japan will seem cheap in a way it does not for people paid in yen.
      • not_a_bot_4sho 1 hour ago
        Living there with local wages and taxes?
      • arkon_hn 1 hour ago
        Not if you don't get paid very much?
  • hootz 1 hour ago
    Always a great thing to hear. Well paid employees, good results, and I'm definitely loving their Switch 2 releases already.
    • leetrout 1 hour ago
      Off topic: what are you enjoying lately? Most of the games I have bought work on switch 1 but the screen and controls on the switch 2 are better.

      I regret buying caravan sandwitch because it's so hard to see with my aging eyes but it is nice to play it anywhere.

      Always curious to hear what others enjoy about it to help me have less regret in my $600 investment in Mario kart

      • wincy 6 minutes ago
        Pokemon Pokopia has been a surprise hit in our house, I have two kids, but I got into it and spent a ton of time making a perfect little Pokemon village. My kids really enjoy Tomodachi Life: Living the Dream. It's really silly but they make all their friends and have them get married and read the news and it's just peak Nintendo goofiness.

        My kids have also gotten a little older so the mainline Pokemon games have become a thing again, and we've been playing those together. Everything just seems to run better on the Switch 2.

      • SSLy 6 minutes ago
        I am afraid MK World isn't even the best kart racer on NS2. It's Sonic Crossworlds
      • hootz 1 hour ago
        DK Bananza is wonderful, a masterpiece. Pokémon Pokopia is also really fun as a recurring game you come back to every day or every couple of days to relax and build your village. I'm also enjoying Switch 1 games on it. Pokémon Violet, for example, lagged hard on Switch 1 but runs great on Switch 2.
      • CM30 38 minutes ago
        Donkey Kong Bananza is probably my Switch 2 game of choice. Like it may not be marketed as such, but it's probably somewhere on par with Super Mario Odyssey in terms of game design and mechanics, and has the craziest ending sequence I've ever seen in a video game. It is a really solid 3D platformer, and does to Donkey Kong what Super Mario 64 did to Super Mario Bros/World.

        The DLC is really fun too, though whether it's worth buying is almost entirely dependent on how much you get into Emerald Rush. Personally I found that mode incredibly addictive for the longest time, though it's definitely not for everyone.

        As a general rule though, the Switch 2's library is kinda niche right now though. What games/DLC are worth it heavily depends on your taste in games.

        Cozy/sandbox game? Pokopia could be a good choice.

        Fan of the Zelda series in general? The upgrades for BotW and TotK are nice, as is Age of Imprisonment.

        Prefer Kirby? Air Riders and the Forgotten Land upgrade are a good bet. More of a Mario fan? Well, there aren't as many options there outside of Mario Kart, though the Wonder upgrade has been pretty well received, and Mario Tennis Fever is a decent game.

        Generally you'll find one or two niche spinoffs you'll really get into, though nothing on the level of a big new 3D Mario/Zelda/Pokemon/whatever game.

      • WillAdams 1 hour ago
        What sort of games do you enjoy playing?

        For my part, I use my Switch 2 as an upgraded Switch 1 for all but one game (a franchise I am fond of release a "Definitive Edition Nintendo Switch 2 Edition") and feel as if I got a good value (esp. considering the upcoming price increase).

        Debating on getting the updated Sports Resort, and wishing that there were more motion-controlled games (esp. miss _Red Steel 2_)

        • supermatt 30 minutes ago
          I was so disappointed with Switch Sports. It lacked the soul of Wii Sports. Sadly, it seems like Sports Resort is going to be more of the same :(
          • WillAdams 6 minutes ago
            I rather enjoyed Wii Sports Resort (mostly the flying and archery) --- so long as those are well-implemented, I'll be fine.
      • buellerbueller 17 minutes ago
        Caves of Qud.
      • mghackerlady 51 minutes ago
        Unless you've played it elsewhere, I'd highly recommend person 3 reload
      • mcphage 35 minutes ago
        > Off topic: what are you enjoying lately?

        I've poured tons of hours into Blue Prince, which is a great puzzle game. Pokopia is fun and charming if you like Pokemon or Minecraft. I've recently been playing Öoo which is a short but sweet "metroidbrania". I played through both Strange Horticulture and Strange Antiquities recently, and liked them both. I played the demo of "Adventure of Elliot: Millennium Tales", and liked the gameplay enough I'll probably pick up the full game, even though the dialog is atrocious. (The voice acting is good, at least).

      • vel0city 1 hour ago
        I'm happy Mario Tennis is back with the ability to play actual full tennis matches again. I skipped the last one.

        The story is kind of meh, but the mechanics of the tennis matches is fun. Its not like I play Mario Tennis for a deep storyline campaign, its for playing a tennis game. Its a good multi-player game.

        I also have to agree with Bananza. A fun story, good mechanics, and a silly art style and direction.

        I'm eager to play Star Fox. It seems like an exceptionally good remake. Its been decades since I last played the original, I imagine it'll feel pretty new and yet familiar at the same time.

        I still do have mostly Switch 1 games to play on it. I don't really mind that. The Switch 2 having pretty much full backwards compatibility is a strong feature to me and not really a con. Better hardware for sure, and some parts of my old Switch was getting worn out after so many years of use.

  • high_na_euv 1 hour ago
    I thought it is common in big companies to raise salaries by x% every year?
    • NikolaNovak 54 minutes ago
      Not in all / not anymore. I'm in Canada a 300k IT/consulting company and rated top performer several years in a row. No raises last couple of years, before that it was 0.49 and 1% respectively. This year there was zero salary increase for anybody in our branch.
      • toomuchtodo 33 minutes ago
        Any year you're not getting a raise and there is inflation, you're taking a pay cut. You may know this, sharing as a PSA for those who might not.
      • ryukoposting 19 minutes ago
        Leave, that's BS.
    • tyingq 1 hour ago
      When it was, it was typically some amount less than inflation. 1-2%
      • bluGill 41 minutes ago
        Every few years I get a 10% raise when they realize those less than inflation raises are enough that they are losing people who places that pay better. (sometime it was me who left, but the cycle repeats at the new place)
      • brettermeier 1 hour ago
        That's what I think I get... So few, I don't even bother to look how much more it is...
        • topgrain2 59 minutes ago
          The worst is when you get a manager who’s either too clueless to realize you’re seeing a pay cut from an “increase” so small, or one who knows but is pretending otherwise.

          That awkward pause in the comp update meeting when they tell you about the “increase” and seem to expect some positive reaction. LOL.

          • StefanBatory 12 minutes ago
            Could be worse, mine has promised me salary increase thrice this year. Every time coming up with bullshit issues why it couldn't happen.

            I am still working on minimum wage (as a DevOps).

        • dylan604 56 minutes ago
          If your "raise" is less than the increase from things like inflation, it's not going to be noticeable even if you did look. The concept of cost of living increases is laughable today. Even banks looking at a mortgage application is assuming your salary will increase way beyond what today's raises are. The only way to do that is to jump ship and find a new job, but then you're dinged because your work history is not stable.
    • KptMarchewa 34 minutes ago
      Individual employees. But the base rate (or band) stays the same, which is not what I'm reading here. So you might travel inside the band from low-paid to high-paid, while it stays the same.
    • colechristensen 1 hour ago
      Japan had zero or negative interest rates for decades, a period which ended a couple of years ago.
    • albertgoeswoof 1 hour ago
      not anymore
  • ilamont 1 hour ago
    Japanese Yen is now 162 to USD, the lowest exchange rate since 1986.
    • pibaker 55 minutes ago
      And they are seeing sustained inflation for the first time since 2000. Not a great time to be paid in yen.
  • kittikitti 6 minutes ago
    Congratulations Nintendo employees! I've always had great conversations and interactions with your engineers so I think this is well deserved.
  • dartharva 1 hour ago
    Great thing about Nintendo is unlike its competitors, they don't go around chasing new tech and business models. All their focus is concentrated on the playing experience - interfacing, fun value, guilt-free hooks etc. In many ways they are more a classic toymaker than a tech firm. This is the reason why they have such a strong following, their product at least is not run by MBAs chasing every chance at a point increase in margins.

    I wish there were more such successful "craftsman shops" out there than soulless "service providers" that today's video game companies are.

    • engeljohnb 55 minutes ago
      I replayed Luigi's Mansion during a long flight the other day, and my wife looked over my shoulder and went "That game looks cool. Is it new?"

      This is exactly why Nintendo games tend to have strong legacies. Everyone back then could see realistic graphics just on the horizon, but they weren't there yet. Nintendo knew that the play experience is the important thing, and made art and designs that work within the limitations. Luigi's Mansion, Wind Waker, Super Mario Sunshine, and Pikmin all still look and feel so good.

      • tskj 19 minutes ago
        Interestingly Wind Waker's art style was its main detractor among critics when it was released, which is wild and incomprehensible to me now. One of my favorite games of all time.
    • ThrowawayR2 41 minutes ago
      Don't forget their patent trolling, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43059215 and general IP related bullying.
  • tekla 51 minutes ago
    It mostly seems that Nintendo is trying very hard to prevent any concern over their stock price dropping like a rock

    https://www.shacknews.com/article/149817/nintendo-ntdoy-pres...

    • mcphage 32 minutes ago
      Stockholders seem concerned that Nintendo isn't throwing away enough of their seed corn, like all the other major game publishers are.
  • iLoveOncall 23 minutes ago
    Before people praise them (a bit late for that I guess given the current comments), Nintendo seems to pay quite poorly their employees in the first place, as you can see from the salaries on https://www.levels.fyi/en-gb/companies/nintendo/salaries/sof... for a company that has a stash of cash and is as successful as they are.
    • chalupa-supreme 2 minutes ago
      100k for entry level roles at one of the most recognizable brands of the world doesn’t seem too bad to me. Then again, I’ve never been to the Seattle/Washington area.