Swift Package Index joins Apple

(swiftpackageindex.com)

78 points | by JDevlieghere 1 hour ago

5 comments

  • peterspath 1 hour ago
    Well I was thinking about making a competitor to SPI because they only support GitHub repo’s.

    This news makes it easy. I’m starting the engines on this…

    • unfunco 40 minutes ago
      Working on an idea after it has been Sherlocked is a bold choice.
      • nish__ 32 minutes ago
        What does Sherlocked mean?
        • julianozen 29 minutes ago
          It means Apple (or big tech) has adopted/cloned your product basically killing your products ability to succeed

          In reference to when Apple created a project called Sherlock that was a direct copy of a popular Mac app Watson

          • jrmg 15 minutes ago
            This makes it sound like Sherlock was named in response to Watson. It was the other way around.

            Earlier versions of Mac OS had an app called ‘Sherlock’[^1] that could search local files and the web in a fairly rigid manner.

            ‘Watson’[^2] was a third party shareware app very much inspired by Sherlock (and obviously, given the name, not trying to hide that!) that was much more flexible, more ‘OS X-like’, arguably much more user friendly, and was open to plugins (like, there was a movie time search plugin, an eBay plugin, an Amazon plugin etc).

            Sherlock 3[^3], in MacOS 10.2, was redesigned with a UI very like that of Watson, and also allowed similar plugins, making Watson obsolete.

            In the Apple developer world, “being Sherlocked” came to mean “your app being made obsolete by Apple including identical functionality with the OS”.

            1: https://winworldpc.com/res/img/screenshots/f2d124c36d74f71c6... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia_Watson 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(software)

        • doodpants 28 minutes ago
        • xd1936 30 minutes ago
          It's a reference to Sherlock (and later Spotlight) being added to macOS, rendering the previous third-party search-launcher tools obsolete.
          • cavoirom 9 minutes ago
            Thank you, I learned it today. On the other side, some users replaced Sherlock (Spotlight) with Alfred.
    • trollbridge 14 minutes ago
      Please get in touch, as I've wanted this to support Gitlab (et al) for a while, and I'm nervous about the future of SPI now.
    • rahkiin 1 hour ago
      Or send in a PR for gitlab/… support?
      • peterspath 22 minutes ago
        They did not want that and discouraged it.
      • bigyabai 17 minutes ago
        Merging a PR with Apple is harder than merging into the left side of a six-lane highway during rush hour.
    • huflungdung 59 minutes ago
      [dead]
  • frou_dh 45 minutes ago
    Back when I was following Swift, I was a bit confused by there being 2 distinct sites that seemed to be pretty much the same thing:

    - https://swiftpackageregistry.com

    - https://swiftpackageindex.com

  • aaronvg 15 minutes ago
    kind of surprised Swift didn't launch with this by default, built in-house
  • jshier 1 hour ago
    Not optimistic here. While I'm glad the SPI guys are getting paid (that is, a full time job), Apple is pretty bad at open source and developer services both, and they explicitly call out developer identity as a future direction, which doesn't fill me with hope.
    • marcelox86 1 hour ago
      I see the opposite, they have a lot of oss projects nowadays and most of their new, interesting stuff is getting open sourced too, a la Microsoft
      • jshier 59 minutes ago
        Simply being open doesn't make them good open source projects. Luckily the SPI shouldn't need to conform to Apple's release schedule, and should operate mostly independently, so the worst aspects of Apple's open source projects will be less of an issue.
        • y1n0 39 minutes ago
          No true Scotsman…
    • SoKamil 1 hour ago
      This acquisition sounds like a sign that Apple wants to get better on that front.
      • jshier 58 minutes ago
        That's a pretty low bar, and doesn't necessarily mean "good".
  • eddythompson80 10 minutes ago
    Apple has something with Swift similar to what Google has with Go. The language has a lot of desirable features for server development very much like Go and Rust. Especially when compared to Java and C#.

    It makes sense for them to build their services using Swift instead of something like Go and the Swift-on-server team has been doing a lot of work to get swift in a usable state on Linux. Having a thriving opensource (starting with a package index) makes a lot of sense to them for that.

    My only problem with Swift is personal taste and experience. I tried it on linux few times (admittingly few years ago now) and generally I wasn't a fan. Go and Rust solve all the problems that Swift could have solved for me, so I didn't bother. But just like node got an entire class of developers into server side programming, Swift could be apples approach to get their iOS and MacOS developers a way to easily write server side code in swift as well

    • frizlab 4 minutes ago
      Swift on Linux has changed since a few years ago. A lot.

      I prefer Swift over rust as it has the same memory-safety guarantees with a much more approachable syntax, and is generally easier to work with.