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  • Avicebron 1 hour ago
    Anyone check in on Ezra?
    • x3n0ph3n3 1 hour ago
      Given Sam Harris was also on the list and the 2 guys loath each other, I very much doubt the reality of this "cabal."
      • pasquinelli 1 hour ago
        a cabal isn't a social club.
        • lazide 35 minutes ago
          Isn’t it literally one though?
          • blurbleblurble 32 minutes ago
            I've always considered it to be some marriage of convenience moreso than some kind of formal thing. And at any rate arguing over whether there's an explicit cabal or not very badly misses the point.
      • ceejayoz 23 minutes ago
        Plenty of people who hate each other manage to form orgs. Stalin and his cronies. The Nazis. The Trump White House. Back stabbing abounds.
  • SecretDreams 47 minutes ago
    I think it hurts more knowing that it's in the public, but nothing will be done and they'll continue to smother the general public all the same.
  • felooboolooomba 54 minutes ago
    This is not a conspiracy theory. It's actual documented evidence. The Epstein files also shed light on this, Bannon traveling around Europe to fortify alt-right alliance and seed unrest.
    • pfannkuchen 42 minutes ago
      Was he trying to seed unrest or was he sabotaging organic right wing movements that have less dumb shit in their program?
  • SpicyLemonZest 1 hour ago
    I guess Esquire didn't read far enough into the Wired article to discover that this is a tech industry version of similar gatherings like Bilderberg or various WEF side events that have long been known to exist. They're not generally called "cabals" (you'll note Wired did not use this term) because, as far as we know, they don't seem to be much more than glorified social clubs.
    • throwaway81523 1 hour ago
      Yeah I probably should have linked the Wired article instead if it hasn't already been here. I spotted it a couple days ago but didn't get around to reading it.
    • directevolve 27 minutes ago
      Author is primarily a sports blogger and political pundit. Esquire’s lead political blogger since 2011.

      Charles P Pierce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Pierce

    • CPLX 58 minutes ago
      Bilderberg, the World Economic Forum, and Bohemian Grove are also cabals of elite crazies trying to run the world.
      • Animats 44 minutes ago
        Plus the Carlyle Group, Temple Emanu-El in NYC, the Rothchilds...

        If any of them are running the world, we're not seeing the results. The current level of competence at world-running is very low. Putin, Trump, Netanyahu, Xi, and whomever is running the UK this month are all worse than average for their job.

        • Joker_vD 38 minutes ago
          > The current level of competence at world-running is very low.

          Yes? If by "running competently" you mean the prosperity of the general population and peace, sure, it's not that competent. But why'd you think that'd be their goal? If anything, Orwell's "1984" shows the mindset perfectly: keep the general public in misery, while skimming whatever cream there is; no need to try and grow the pie, there is enough for them, and the rest of the world can go buck itself.

        • anonymars 37 minutes ago
          I don't follow the logic - because incompetent people are running the show, some other group of incompetent people can't be running the show?
          • lazide 32 minutes ago
            It’s even weirder I think? Because the people in power are clearly incompetent AND making the average persons life shitty, they clearly can’t be in power due to a conspiracy.

            When if anything, that seems to support it being the result of shenanigans?

            • fwip 23 minutes ago
              They can be effective at acquiring power and bad at wielding it.

              But it seems to me like they're enriching themselves just fine.

        • cryo32 3 minutes ago
          Yes. To be clear they think they are running the world because all the ass kissers around them told them they are.

          Reality is a lot less forgiving of their delusions.

        • Avicebron 37 minutes ago
          I think the incompetence is the point. I imagine what "running the world" really looks like is making bank off international loans and reconsutruction projects after one useful idiot bombs the country of another.
        • lazide 34 minutes ago
          Isn’t the point to be in charge regardless of competence or popularity? That is real power.

          Those things are far more necessary for an Employee than an Owner.

  • johnea 1 hour ago
    Ha Ha! That's funny 8-)

    > "Turn's Out..."

    There's been a psycho cabal of the idiot wealthy trying to run the world since the invention of currency...

    Before that, there was a murderous cabal of warlords. They haven't gone away, they've just been joined by the idiot wealthy...

  • jcgrillo 16 minutes ago
    I feel like based on the amount of power these people wield in the world I should be afraid of them, but then I read this:

    > registrants returned again and again to the same theme: that AI will reorder work, war, education, and belief within a few years.

    lmao. nvm. they're idiots.

    • cryo32 5 minutes ago
      It’s basically just a large circular hand job of people who have been told they are visionaries by sycophants.
    • tty456 13 minutes ago
      > registrants returned again and again to the same theme: that AI will reorder work, war, education, and belief within a few years.

      These things are already happening, whether we want them to or not. Elites will no doubt benefit from the destruction of all of it.

  • fuzzfactor 1 hour ago
    I guess if it comes full circle the trend among conspiracy theorists will have them touting how there's no possible way there can be a "cabal" of any kind.
  • j3th9n 39 minutes ago
    No shit, Sherlock.
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  • dfhkalhehrer 40 minutes ago
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    • drekipus 38 minutes ago
      Now is not the time for satire
  • christkv 1 hour ago
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    • rpmisms 1 hour ago
      That's not intelligent of you. Being partisan doesn't mean you're stupid or wrong.
      • xdennis 34 minutes ago
        No, it just means you'll achieve nothing.

        The right has been complaining for a while that billionaires want us to eat bugs and own nothing. Instead of forming a common cause, left wingers only complain about right wing billionaires while sanctifying left wing billionaires like Bill Gates.

        • fwip 21 minutes ago
          Not sure you've met many leftists, if you think we like Bill Gates.
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  • JanisIO 1 hour ago
    Ah shut up. Newest trend is to tell us the tech billionaires are the ones controlling the world. We all know the truth already but most of us are too afraid to admit. The real evil always finds a Sündenbock.
    • eli_gottlieb 20 minutes ago
      Why use a German word for "scapegoat"?
      • JanisIO 16 minutes ago
        Because millions of people lost their lives because all followers of a particular religion were blamed for the problems. Bit meta — I know.
    • krapp 1 hour ago
      What's the "real evil?"
      • JanisIO 1 hour ago
        Those trying to seed hatred.
        • krapp 1 hour ago
          How is "those trying to seed hatred" a truth we all know but are afraid to admit? Who's afraid to admit something so generic and pedestrian?
        • cluckindan 1 hour ago
          You mean the billionaires?
          • JanisIO 59 minutes ago
            Probably the Trillionaires. Haha.
    • rvz 1 hour ago
      Exactly. This is a complete conspiracy theory as these billionaires actually all care about our wellbeing and are here to save us. /s
      • JanisIO 58 minutes ago
        I’m just drunk and don’t care about what people think of me anymore. But you didn’t get my sarcasm.
        • EdwardDiego 41 minutes ago
          Yep, that's the alcohol talking, in the morning you'll be sober and you might.
    • rexpop 39 minutes ago
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      • JanisIO 29 minutes ago
        That's no reason to get rude.
  • bobbytheblkbear 36 minutes ago
    I don't buy this personally. The leaks of Peter Thiel's 'Dialog' society demonstrate to me that the bell curve™ (or normal distribution as cool cats refer to it) exists at every level of wealth and society. (Look up the banality of the topics if you're curious as to what I mean here) What this means to me personally is that there is a certain level of baked-in/read-only reaction to being in certain types of social circles, and those circles tend to act according to Nature™ and try to preserve themselves while spreading. Practically the upshot here is that what we interpret as a "cabal" is actually the self-preservation of a system that is not publicly available for observation. Moreover, in many cases, the only means of admission to this class is purely by luck/chance/birth into a certain family group. In many ways these systems are counter-intuitive; wealth is typically used as a means to have a "nice life", while forcing the rest of the world into a state of decay, which ruins of the value of the wealth. As one group continues to grow in their ability to extract resources, they also place pressure upon their own relationship between themselves and those extracting the resources for them as the pyramid scheme breaks down with less people to pull into it over time. (Chasing infinite gains in terms of corporate stock or private gains from equity investments IS a pyramid scheme, however legal it may be.) Thus, what's interpreted as a "dangerous cabal" is more like the relationship between animal groups, and new elements in the natural hierarchy have displaced resources between the groups, which will cause a correction to slowly occur in terms of the overall patterns. Ideally, these groups would recognize the signalling occurring and attempt to bring things back into a natural stasis pattern. (i.e. many people are complaining about wealth/billionaires, it may be strategic to invest in bettering society and creating homogeneity so that things remain as an enjoyable Epcot™-esque collective as opposed to a globally-connected & self-hating/billionaire-hating slave class)
    • blurbleblurble 33 minutes ago
      You're getting hung up on the idea of a "cabal" being some kind of formal thing that has explicit membership rules. But what we're talking about is simply the collusion of hyper-wealthy people in their various schemes. That's the cabal.
      • bobbytheblkbear 30 minutes ago
        The concept of wealth is predicated upon the idea that one may "play at the table in the Casino and win". In reality entry to this system is barred but it only exists in such a way because people believe in the promise/concept that they will be allowed to succeed if they continue to try.

        What you're defining as a "Cabal of Wealth" is an allowance by the people because they believe in the concept of joining it. If this isn't clear I'm happy to expand upon it.