The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

(eualternative.eu)

75 points | by sparkling 1 hour ago

9 comments

  • redfloatplane 6 minutes ago
    I know it's boring to comment and say that something sounds like it was written by an AI, but this sounds like it was written by an AI. I am often especially suspicious of these listicle recommendation sites because it's pretty cheap and easy to have dozens of sites doing some list which just so happens to mention a specific service that 'quietly' does a 'surprisingly good job' of some doodad. This kind of submarine advertising feels like it might be quite common. Although in this case it seems they're trying more for a 'sponsorship' thing - 'our website got X views in Y days, sponsor us, random company!'
  • zuzululu 3 minutes ago
    any good reason to serve the EU? I am observing through various SaaS and support tickets and EU seem no average way more finicky and stingy than North American customers not to mention the absurd level of EU regulations you have to follow just to serve the same product at a much higher cost.

    It's like a bad mix of culture (bordering on arrogance and pathological in some bad cases) and over regulation.

    I always advise clients to avoid the EU at launch and focus on UK if they really want to do a test run and encourage them to focus on East Asia instead.

    You'd think Europe is this affluent and sophisticated customer demographic but again and again from data I see it couldn't be further from the truth.

  • FlxMgdnz 6 minutes ago
    Thanks for listing Hanko as EU-based authentication provider.

    To be upfront about this, we’re still on AWS (Frankfurt), but "EU-owned" hosting/data regions will be available very soon.

  • satvikpendem 29 minutes ago
    On Herzner add Dokploy (Honduras, I prefer this even if it's not European) or Coolify (Hungary) to get a Vercel-like PaaS experience for free. Any others that are good?
  • thinkindie 21 minutes ago
    this website seems a clone of https://european-alternatives.eu/

    Either way, one of the most critical parts is that many are still hosting on Google Cloud, AWS or Microsoft, therefore you are not 100% insulated from Cloud Act.

    • fmbb 15 minutes ago
      A lot of the alternatives there are tagged "EU hosted". Some are not.

      Are the ones that are tagged "EU hosted" among the ones you mean host on Google Cloud, AWS or Microsoft?

  • byyll 22 minutes ago
    I don't think that's an alternative to US hyperscalers. Scaleway is the closest thing there is. Replacing a single service with 10 others is not really an alternative in my opinion.
    • fmbb 13 minutes ago
      Not putting all your eggs in one basket is a good choice. I think the AWS service catalog makes you adopt more than you need or want anyway, it is a great way of locking people into one vendor.
    • veselin 16 minutes ago
      I would argue that with AI, this becomes less of an issue. Connect N services, deploy to bare metal. Granted, AI is an additional cost now local or remote. But so is the MacBook people use to develop their software.
  • pickleballcourt 17 minutes ago
    Haven’t used herzner but heard good things
  • embedding-shape 34 minutes ago
    What about DNS buying/hosting? Seems it's not mentioned (neither is emailing besides transactional/marketing). I'm currently on DNSimple but been trying to replace it with some closer to home (Europe) alternative that still offers the same level of possible automation as DNSimple does, anyone know of any that fits the bill?
    • seszett 1 minute ago
      OVH is one of the cheapest and works satisfactorily for me. I went back to OVH when Gandi stopped being a recommendable company.

      OVH's API allows full control of an account, but I don't know how that compares to DNSimple.

    • mnahkies 28 minutes ago
      It's not European, rather a New Zealand company but I find https://zonomi.com/ pretty good. There's a Lego resolver that works fine https://github.com/go-acme/lego - although my only complaint is the DNS propagation takes a while though I suspect that's a my config problem (dig will show the txt record long before Lego sees it)
    • byyll 27 minutes ago
      ClouDNS is probably the most popular one.
  • gitowiec 20 minutes ago
    I thought I will find GetResponse there, but they are fucking greedy!