Amazonbot is finally respecting robots.txt

(xeiaso.net)

77 points | by xena 2 hours ago

8 comments

  • phdelightful 3 minutes ago
    I just put Anubis in front of my self-hosted forge this morning because AmazonBot had helped itself to 750 GiB (!) of traffic to my public repos this month!

    At least, it claimed to be AmazonBot…

  • bstsb 1 hour ago
    > Get Outlook for Mac

    this bit made me laugh. was the email drafted in Outlook? was it sent to some sort of forwarding mailbox, or did they just BCC every customer in?

  • captn3m0 12 minutes ago
    Good place to ask, saw a new AWS User agent in logs today: Amazon-Quick-on-Behalf-of-$HEXID

    I found a mention on some user agent trackers but no official documentation. Anyone knows if it’s documented? Asking because I am seeing decent traffic (30GB/week) from this.

    • iLoveOncall 0 minutes ago
      Amazon Quick is the new name of Quicksight, which is the BI tool from AWS.

      It has AI agents included so I guess this can just come from it searching the web based on user requests.

  • jacobn 1 hour ago
    I just complained to them the other day! They were scraping our weather website to no end, very much including the disallowed path prefixes.

    Did end up just adding them to our WAF blocklist, which is weirdly ironic - hosting on their infra & using their services to block their AI scraper...

    • BLKNSLVR 47 minutes ago
      I hope you leave it on the WAF. If they're only just deciding to respect robots.txt, which has been internet infrastructure forever, then it's probably still incredibly amateur software with 'Amazon-priorities' rather than 'responsible internet traffic' priorities.
  • TurdF3rguson 54 minutes ago
    Why does Amazonbot even exist, can someone explain? I don't understand why an ecommerce play would be crawling other websites.
    • input_sh 48 minutes ago
      To train AI. Not even a hyperbole, that is the only concrete example they list in their explanation: https://developer.amazon.com/amazonbot

      > Amazonbot is used to improve our products and services. This helps us provide more accurate information to customers and may be used to train Amazon AI models.

    • tintor 47 minutes ago
      To ensure Amazon marketplace sellers aren't offering lower prices on other ecommerce websites. Also AI.
      • b112 5 minutes ago
        I was wondering about this. And it makes me think this is all mistruth, unless they plan to drop this pricing tactic.

        They've been getting some heat on it lately, but I find it hard to believe they're going to give up entirely? And if so, what's to stop someone from just flouting their rules on pricing, and then doing the robots.txt thing to prevent issues?

    • embedding-shape 48 minutes ago
      Amazonbot is specifically the user agent they use for crawling for "provide more accurate information to customers" (whatever that means, could be anything it sounds like) and also when they scrape for data used in AI training, according to https://developer.amazon.com/amazonbot
    • reaperducer 48 minutes ago
      AI. Gotta slurp the world.
  • arjie 1 hour ago
    Huh, I get a lot of traffic from Amazonbot (relative to humans) and try as I might, it would get stuck in a tarpit of no creation because it would sit there and keep blasting every variation of my recent pages because Mediawiki lists many links. I have them appropriately nofollow and warning the bot not to waste its time with robots.txt but it just goes and sticks itself on nonsense internal pages.

    The traffic isn't a problem. I've got Cloudflare in front and the machine itself is relatively overpowered, and downtime isn't critical. But I'd just like the thing to be able to spider me properly. Someone did point out to me that maybe I wasn't receiving actual Amazonbot but some other spider: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46352723

  • namegulf 1 hour ago
    Robots.txt is lame BTW, there is no way to enforce it. It is up to the bot to decide to crawl or not and most cases they don't care.

    Cloudflare had a nice technic to address the bot problem (if you use their name servers). It'll respect and use the robots.txt while sending the remaining bots to a deep black hole.

    • input_sh 41 minutes ago
      Yes, we know, its purpose is to guide the bots, not forcibly block them.

      That said, one of the biggest websites in the world not respecting it is definitely a noteworthy story. Hopefully another one of the biggest websites in the world (formerly known as Twitter) eventually respects it as well instead of not even disclosing itself via a user agent and pretending to be Safari running on iOS.

      • namegulf 27 minutes ago
        Why down vote a comment?

        You're talking about one (yes, biggest) but millions of other bots don't follow must be a bigger story.

    • llbbdd 7 minutes ago
      Yeah, robots.txt is a great herald example of the type of solution invented by people who don't understand incentives whatsoever.