14 comments

  • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
    Interesting things Dirac does:

    1. Uses an optimized version of Hash-Anchored edits for file editing (https://dirac.run/posts/hash-anchors-myers-diff-single-token)

    2. Utilizes language's AST to decide what to fetch into context, entirely avoids large code file reads

    3. Batches all operations. Does large number of reads/edits simultaneously (you can see a video demo for deepseek-v4-flash here https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1suhdki/tested_...)

    4. Allows the model to execute code to analyze things on the fly, so the model can simply write bash/python/perl script to accomplish things where appropriate

    5. A lot of context curation and opportunistic context updates, i.e. put into context anything that you are certain model would ask next

    • deskamess 1 hour ago
      I always wondered why AST's were not more of a part in both editing and scoping of changes/parsing code. I thought I read an article where they said 'grep' was just as effective. It kinda made sense for the case they were talking about.
      • GodelNumbering 52 minutes ago
        Grep is effective for the most part, except for situations like when you have huge codebases and the thing you're looking for is used in too many places both as symbol and non-symbol.

        Another annoying thing about plain grep is, LLMs often end up pulling in bundled packages when using grep where 1 line is large enough to ruin the context window

        • embedding-shape 40 minutes ago
          > Grep is effective for the most part

          It's very effective in well-written and well-designed code bases where concepts tend to be relatively well formed to not be named the same as everything else, so grepping for symbols give you good search results.

          Projects where the god-object or core concepts are generic names like "Tree", "Node" or other things that are used everywhere, tends to be short of impossible to search with grep and friends.

    • tripleee 47 minutes ago
      "Hey everyone, you know that tech that so many of you mentioned has made your work miserable and you're worried might put you out of a job? I think I made it even better! And I didn't even get paid for it! Hah!"

      Anyone working on this is anti-developer.

  • adyavanapalli 17 minutes ago
    I haven't tried it, but I'm curious why you decided to implement a whole new harness over just writing extensions in pi. From whatever I've done with pi so far, the extension api is quite extensive. Hash anchored edits, for example, can definitely be implemented in pi. Anyhow, thank you for showing us your project and will be checking it out later. Cheers!
  • Mashimo 1 hour ago
    Interesting. Would love a comparison to pi.dev (Not Ohmypi)

    How does this perform in day to day coding tasks, outside of benchmarks?

    • GodelNumbering 56 minutes ago
      https://github.com/dirac-run/dirac#-evals

      README has eval of 8 tasks over 7 agents (including both pi and omp). Pi-mono costs second lowest across the 8 tasks (after Dirac) but occasionally misses produces incomplete changes.

      Interestingly, 2 tasks where pi missed some changes both were the tasks that benefitted from AST symbol understanding (e.g. find all instances of things that refer to this symbol and change those things). Since pi relies on bash type tooling, it missed some occurrences

      • howdareme 32 minutes ago
        Going to assume you didnt capture the data but could you add time taken to completion for each if you have it?
  • bryanhogan 48 minutes ago
    If I understand correctly, this is a heavily improved Cline fork? Does that mean features such as plan and act mode are also still there?
    • GodelNumbering 35 minutes ago
      Yes, plan+act mode is one thing I loved about Cline!
  • martinald 1 hour ago
    Very interesting! I've often thought static analysis could really help agents (I wrote this last summer: https://martinalderson.com/posts/claude-code-static-analysis...), but despite being hyped for LSPs in Claude Code it turned out to be very underwhelming (for many of the reasons that they can be annoying in a "real" IDE, ie static analysis starts firing mid edit and complaining and cached analysis getting stuck).

    Curious to know if this has been an issue with your AST approach on larger projects?

    The hash line based numbering is very interesting too (though I see on Opus 4.5+ far far fewer editing errors).

    I've often thought that even if model progress stopped today, we'd still have _years_ of improvements thru harness iteration.

    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      Wrt LSP, it uses the default LSP mechanism of the ide provider.

      For AST, it uses tree-sitter WASMs (ships them with the package), and maintains queries (https://github.com/dirac-run/dirac/tree/master/src/services/...)

      To keep performance fast, it stores the symbols DB (using sqlite) in the workspace's directory and incrementally updates it based on timestamps. Then it uses this DB to resolve symbol queries

      • martinald 31 minutes ago
        Yes I understand, but do you not have issues that it drifts out of date and confuses the agents (especially on longer running tasks)?

        Like even "full" Visual Studio and Resharper have issues with this. Eg, you start editing file x, 'intellisense' runs, says there are loads of errors... because you haven't finished editing yet.

  • blueTiger33 30 minutes ago
    Stared it. will try it later. one question though, to make it simpler for me, in what tasks does this model shine, how do you improve the score? I already use some skills to cut down CC costs, like caveman, rtk cli and a few others. just want to understand
    • GodelNumbering 11 minutes ago
      I did limited testing using Sonnet on CC vs Sonnet on Dirac. I could not confirm the costs however
  • redrove 19 minutes ago
    I keep trying to use dirac-cli with codex and it won't work: Error: Codex API error: Codex API request failed: 400.

    Any ideas?

    • GodelNumbering 12 minutes ago
      Assuming you logged in with OAuth, I am guessing you are trying to use gpt-5.5?

      In my tests, it worked using gpt-5.4 for me and I assumed gpt-5.5 is not available to me because I am on the free plan

      Do you have the subscription that allows 5.5? If so, I can look into what changed in API. Sorry I rarely use openAI so it is a bit of an untrodden path

  • nthypes 1 hour ago
    Can't OpenCode reach the same just developing this as a feature or plug-in? Like anchored edit?
    • mdasen 8 minutes ago
      Sure. Dirac is just a fork of the Cline harness and obviously OpenCode could take the same techniques and implement them. I don't know how difficult it would be to implement them in OpenCode, but given that Dirac and OpenCode are both open source, a future version of OpenCode could always be a re-branded Dirac (I'm sure there are ways to implement Dirac's techniques without having to completely replace OpenCode's underlying code base, but this illustrates that at the extreme, they could clearly just take Dirac in its entirety to get the same results).
  • snqb 30 minutes ago
    how well does it do on frontier models like Opus 4.6?
    • GodelNumbering 10 minutes ago
      I have only done functionality testing, no benchmark testing on Opus (decided to pay my rent instead)
  • aetherspawn 1 hour ago
    Sorry I couldn’t really figure out if this was a harness, a fine tuned model, or both. Can we use Qwen with this for example? Is the performance expected to be better in that case?
    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      The model was the default gemini-3-flash-preview.

      Harness was https://www.npmjs.com/package/dirac-cli

      Since Dirac is Cline's heavily modified fork, it supports all models Cline supported, including Qwen and all popular open/closed models

      As a matter of fact, I am trying to run terminal bench 2.0 using some OSS models at the moment but the slow inference speeds are causing tasks to timeout

  • nthypes 1 hour ago
    No CLI? Only VSCode extension?
    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      Cli too (you can't run tbench without cli as it runs in an isolated docker env) `npm install -g dirac-cli`
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