12 comments

  • techblueberry 2 hours ago
    "AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mission. Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement."

    So wait a second, the DoW let OpeAI put the exact same clauses in their contract, but Anthropic is a supply chain risk? What is going on?

    • unyttigfjelltol 27 minutes ago
      This says OpenAI is happy with the law and DoW policy, and thinks those protections are adequate. In contrast, Anthropic seems to have imposed additional contractual guardrails, blocking apparently legal DoW use cases.

      Was it a subtly different contract, or a notice of dispute? Unclear.

    • neya 1 hour ago
      I get the feeling they didn't like Anthropic from the start for whatever reason and just found excuses to dump them and find an alternative provider. There's also the possibility the DoW will still have its way and this is possibly only a statement for the public.

      P.S I'm not political (no left/right drama), just speculative.

      • LarsDu88 26 minutes ago
        The question is why was it so urgent to bring this up right now. The answer is that the US Navy has carrier battle groups stationed off the coast of Iran right now.

        US F22 fighter jets have been spotted on Israeli airfields by Chinese commercial satellites in the past 3 days.

        A full scale strike on Iran is imminent and they want to leverage LLMs for data analysis and quite possibly automated target selection.

        Literally the SkyNet scenario both researchers and frickin pop culture have warned about for years.

        • LarsDu88 20 minutes ago
          Don't know why im being down voted on this. The reality of the situation will become evident in the next 2 weeks
          • SpicyLemonZest 4 minutes ago
            I thought it sounded very conspiratorial (can you even integrate a new model that quickly?) until I learned that Israel launched strikes on Iran literally as I was typing out the comment. I bow in respect to your analytic skills.
    • m3kw9 1 hour ago
      Sam went second so he can obviously use the entire situation to warn the govt about designating all AI companies supply chain risk
    • almosthere 1 hour ago
      Because there are only two options really, anthropic and openai. Gemini is a year behind. Gov had no more options after those two.
    • yoyohello13 2 hours ago
      The difference is how much money each CEO has contributed to Trump’s campaign.
    • d--b 1 hour ago
      What do you think could be going, seriously?

      Obviously Altman agreed to whatever they asked him and is lying that the DoW is cool about the red lines.

    • SilverElfin 29 minutes ago
      Claude is not as ideologically willing as friends of the Trump administration are - like xAI's Grok and OpenAI's ChatGPT. And David Sacks, the AI czar, who is a PayPal mafia member and close friend of the Epstein class (Elon Musk, Peter Thiel), has been attacking Anthropic FOREVER. He views them as a woke threat to America. So all that supply chain risk and the ban from agencies is just a way of abusing power to suppress free speech.

      But the most obvious reason, is that Greg Brockman - who's a founder and also the current president of OpenAI apparently, is the largest donor to the Trump MAGA PAC. I find it hard to believe that Sam Altman and the Trump administration would be so obvious about it, but I also find it hard to believe that tens of millions in donations and this kind of result can be anything but a bribe.

  • ismyrnow 27 minutes ago
    I suspect that Anthropic wanted the govt to ensure they would not use Claude for mass surveillance or autonomous weapons even if it does become legal in the future. OpenAI was comfortable with the agreement because it's currently illegal and they can make a public statement that they still side with Anthropic on the ethics side.

    I also believe that Anthropic's CEO just didn't get along with the DoW in negotiations. So much of these big contracts comes down to relationships.

    Still pretty sleazy how the govt is being so aggressive about it. I wish they would have just denied the contract and picked another vendor.

  • chkaloon 1 hour ago
    They know Sam has few scruples and will go for the money if the DoW says jump. These clauses mean zilch if Sam is involved
  • stopbulying 3 hours ago
    OpenAI was founded as an ethical AI research nonprofit organization.
    • tombert 8 minutes ago
      I agree, though aren't they planning on doing an IPO later this year?
    • NBJack 44 minutes ago
      I'm not sure anyone at the company can say that with a straight face anymore.
    • stopbulying 2 hours ago
      Is Trump still goading OpenAI into transferring SOTA AI to middle eastern countries that do not regard Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion as values and rights?
  • allovertheworld 2 hours ago
    skynet speedrun
  • petterroea 43 minutes ago
    That was fast
  • ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago
  • chiararvtk 2 hours ago
    human responsibility for the use of force

    So, use but if goes wrong, someone needs to be responsible. Aaaand we know that works very well

  • m3kw9 1 hour ago
    You guys think American shouldn’t use AI in military at all isn’t understanding their counter party is absolutely all in on AI in theirs
    • jkaplowitz 1 hour ago
      Nobody was advocating for zero AI in the military - certainly not Anthropic. They were fine with all lawful US military use cases except for two: the mass domestic surveillance of Americans and fully autonomous weapons. Whether you agree or disagree with their particular red lines, that's quite far from them trying to keep their product out of the military.
    • djdndbdnfd 1 hour ago
      Nobody is complaining about the government not giving Anthropic a contract. It’s about the unprecedented and outrageous threats to destroy their business if they don’t provide the government with what they demand. There is no national supply risk from Boeing using Claud Code just beacause Anthropic won’t agree to domestically-surviving killbots. The government’s behaviour is overwhelmingly malevolent and terrifying.
    • behringer 1 hour ago
      We don't want to support Ai under Trump. We don't even want a department of war.
  • rustystump 2 hours ago
    All the ai gov drama is a giant shrug to me. The reality is uncle sam has all the power and whatever comes out of industry sam is gonna sam with just like any other gov.

    Ethics dont exist on the global stage. The privacy ship sailed decades ago. It all looks performative to me across all sides.

    The smart move is to side with gov using some hand wave jutsi about “we have a contract” to get access to sams big nuts. Sam aint gonna respect no contract regardless of what is in. He breaks all laws without consequence for the last 60 odd years.

    Unless people start starving, no revolution is gonna change the status quo here. It is like 9D marketing/branding chess for ai companies