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  • cyberax 1 hour ago
    It's interesting, that we're getting down to the sizes of self-replicating RNA that realistically can form by a complete accident.

    Getting this sequence by random chance out of a pile of nucleotides is a 1 in 2^90 chance. That's around 1.2*10^27 or just around 20000 moles! Not at all an impossible number.

    • jjk166 19 minutes ago
      Note that the Bennu asteroid sample had approximately 5 nanomoles of nucleotides per gram, meaning 20,000 moles of nucleotides could be delivered by a single 4 million ton asteroid, which if it were a spherical carbonaceous chondrite would be about 183 meters in diameter. An asteroid about that size impacts earth roughly every 36,000 years, and that mass of meteor material falls to earth each century.

      If primordial earth's oceans had nucleotide concentrations comparable to Bennu, then there would be about 10^39 nucleotides in the ocean.

  • java-man 2 hours ago
    2009 paper: Self-sustained replication of an RNA enzyme [0].

    [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19131595/

    • rcyeh 1 hour ago
      Amazing! The 2009 Lincoln & Joyce paper you cited catalyzes one bond per hour on average. (Doubling time = 1 hour, but only one bond between oligonucleotides needed to double.)

      OP's Gianni et al 2026 paper connects 45 nucleotides, taking 72 days (1700 hours) to yield 0.2%.

      The latter effort is like drawing the whole owl.

      That is incredible patience. Without access to the full article, I read only the abstract. I wonder if they used simulations to narrow the candidates?

  • shablulman 1 hour ago
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