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  • profsummergig 2 hours ago
    Maybe they'll finally find the nuclear device lost on Nanda Devi, that has the potential to - *checks notes* - poison North India (via the glacier that feeds the Ganges).
    • ninjin 2 hours ago
    • krasin 1 hour ago
      > that (checks notes) has the potential to poison most of North India.

      How large is the amount of plutonium in there? I highly doubt that it has the claimed potential.

      • krasin 1 hour ago
        I found the specs for the fuel source: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/SNAP-19C_Moun...

        The high-power unit had 300 grams of Pu-238 in 1965. Given its 87.7 years half-life, only 187g of Pu-238 remaining. It's very hard to do much damage with this amount of radioactive material.

        • onion2k 1 hour ago
          It decays to uranium-234 though, which still isn't exactly nice. It'll be a long time before it's a block of inert lead.
          • krasin 28 minutes ago
            U-234 is ~3000x less radioactive than Pu-238, so having ~120g of U-234 is negligible.

            I really fail to see a problem with these tiny amounts of non-brittle material embedded into a solid case. It's still very dangerous, but it's locally dangerous (meters away), not at the scale of whole countries.

      • khuey 1 hour ago
        Around three pounds, and something like 40% of it has already decayed away since this happened in the 60s.
    • s5300 1 hour ago
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  • adrianN 1 hour ago
    It won’t be long before climate change starts causing mass migrations and the associated conflicts. With the current unstable world order we could really do without another massive problem.
    • jmward01 1 hour ago
      Arguably Iran is seeing turmoil, at least partially, due to drought.

      https://www.npr.org/2025/08/17/nx-s1-5500318/iranian-officia...

      • magicalhippo 47 minutes ago
        I recall reading about a paper in SciAm or American Scientist a couple of decades ago, where they had trained a ML model to predict regional conflicts or civil wars. The main input was scarcity of food, mainly through price IIRC.

        They trained it on historical data up to the 90s or so, and had it predict the "future" up to the time of the article. And as I recall it did very well. They even included some actual near-future predictions as well which also turned out pretty accurately as I recall.

        Which I suppose isn't a huge surprise after all. People don't like to starve.

      • baxtr 42 minutes ago
        But the drought was not caused by climate change, but by mismanagement ie complete neglect of the problem.
        • energy123 3 minutes ago
          Monocausality is quite the assertion.
        • pmezard 9 minutes ago
          Is not climate change mismanagement or complete neglect of the problem?
          • baxtr 1 minute ago
            Absolutely.

            But the problems are on different time scales and spheres of influence.

            Iran can’t do anything on their own agains climate change. But they can decide to fund water projects instead of bombs.

            It’s a bit like saying: I went to the beach for a day and got sunburned. It’s climate change!

            Yes the sun got more intense because of climate change (maybe) but why didn’t you buy an umbrella or sun screen?

          • schainks 4 minutes ago
            Iran specifically had infrastructure in place to help manage the water for Tehran (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat). The Ayatollahs not only _destroyed_ that infrastructure and the system of humans needed to maintain it, but they also encouraged pumping of water from local aquifers, among other obviously stupid water management techniques: https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/khomeini...

            So, you are right, but in Iran's case, the current regime pretty much did the opposite of anything you should have done, while also chopping of their hands to do anything more.

        • Y-bar 13 minutes ago
          Arguably the climate change we see today (and will see in the future) is also largely caused by mismanagement and complete neglect of the problem.
      • chii 52 minutes ago
        while the drought was the last straw, i think the mismanagement of their water resources by the regime (for embezzlement of public funds, direct or indirect, into insider pockets etc) is the true root cause. There's "enough" water to last thru the current drought, if it was better utilized in the past.
      • rob74 51 minutes ago
        That, plus decades of mismanagement and corruption...
    • netsharc 1 hour ago
      Are you writing from e.g. 2008? In 2010 Russian forest fires caused grain shortages and the price to go up, creating the Arab Spring and including the start of the Syrian civil war. That caused a wave of refugees that peaked in 2015. That caused the rise of right wing racist populism in Europe...
  • Arun2009 42 minutes ago
    What we tend to forget is that even with the catastrophic effects of climate change, the Earth is still vastly more inhabitable than other planets in the solar system. More pertinently, today we also have the intellectual tools to come with the right solutions for a good part of this problem. Solutions most likely won't require dramatic breakthroughs in fundamental science; probably just more clever engineering and better social and political coordination.

    The real problem is that this is happening in one of the most socio-economically underdeveloped regions of the world. Despite isolated centers of modest excellence, India still hasn't fully absorbed the implications of the scientific revolution at a popular, cultural level. A good part of the population are still caught up in pre-modern modes of thinking. Rather than addressing this gap, the political establishment is only deepening an irrational and romantic belief in the worth of India's classical worldviews to continue their hold on power.

    More than climate change, I dread the self-inflicted servitude to infantile notions that is holding India hostage. It's not really difficult to emerge out of this - we just need to shed our intellectual timidity and face reality as it is.

    • mb7733 12 minutes ago
      > What we tend to forget is that even with the catastrophic effects of climate change, the Earth is still vastly more inhabitable than other planets in the solar system.

      Speak for yourself. I have never forgotten that Earth is more inhabitable than Mars or Jupiter

    • leosanchez 13 minutes ago
      I don't know what you are on about. You have pivoted to politics needlessly.

      Current administration is investing in renewable energy. You are making them seem climate change deniers.

      Keep your politics to reddit.

    • throw3456 8 minutes ago
      India produces abundance of food and got vast fertile lands. Modern farming is good but its gonna wipe out tens of millions of jobs if its done in no time.
    • tehjoker 14 minutes ago
      There are also pockets of India that are more advanced than many places elsewhere. I have a lot of love for Kerala. It doesn't have too many jobs, but it has a ton of heart and forward thinking people (which is why industrialists are scared of it).
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