Code and Let Live

(fly.io)

326 points | by usrme 1 day ago

44 comments

  • therealwardo 4 hours ago
    I really want to love this, but my experience in the first 20 seconds is unfortunately like some of my other experiences coding against Fly APIs, they're broken.

    https://sprites.dev/api has this command:

    $ curl -X POST "https://api.sprites.dev/v1/sprites" \ -H "Authorization: Bearer $SPRITES_TOKEN" \ -d '{"name": "my-sprite"}'

    which responds with

    {"error":"name is required"}

    if you use the request body in the full "Create Sprite" documentation at https://sprites.dev/api/sprites#create then it does work.

    can I live with some rough edges for some personal workflows that only impact me when things break? sure. however, I was thinking about playing with some CI/CD stuff using sprites that would impact our whole team if things broke and I'm really on the fence because of this experience in the first 20 seconds.

    Fly team - please put some black box probes or just better testing on the example you give in the quick start. if you document it, test it.

    • tvink 2 hours ago
      Probably because you didn't include the content type header?
      • therealwardo 2 hours ago
        yep that would fix it. just needs a little docs change.

        a "quick start" really should just work when you copy paste them.

    • nextaccountic 3 hours ago
      Can this issue be reported?

      I wish more companies had open issue trackers (some proprietary software have issues on Github for example, but, it doesn't need to be Github, just let people discuss issues in the open)

  • simonw 1 day ago
    I'm really excited about https://sprites.dev/ - it hits two of my favourite problems at once:

    1. Developer environment sandboxes. This is a cheap and convenient way to run Claude Code / Codex CLI / etc in YOLO mode in a persistent sandboxed VM with a restricted blast radius if something goes wrong.

    2. Sandbox API. Fly now have a product that lets me make a simple JSON API call to run untrusted code in a new sandbox. There's even snapshotting support so I can roll back to a known state after running that code.

    I wrote more a bunch more about this here: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jan/9/sprites-dev/

    • dang 11 hours ago
      I know you know this, as you posted it, but readers might want to look at this related thread:

      Fly's Sprites.dev addresses dev environment sandboxes and API sandboxes together - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46561089 - Jan 2026 (10 comments)

    • realty_geek 18 hours ago
      I have found container-use to be super useful for this.

      https://container-use.com/quickstart

      BTW Simon, I was super happy when I heard on Theo's podcast that he will be encouraging you to monetise your work more. I'm super appreciative of your work and I'm pretty convinced that the more you profit from it, the better the universe will be!!!

      • skrebbel 25 minutes ago
        For those of us who weren’t on that podcast, can you clarify who Theo is?
  • phelm 23 minutes ago
    This looks great, i've been wanting a dev sandbox that doesn't run the risk of costing a lot if I forget to turn it off.

    I had a few issues

    1. manpath: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct

    suspect this is due to it inheriting locale from my local machine? easy to get around with some updates to .bashrc

    2. the $SHELL environment in my sprite is `/opt/homebrew/bin/fish` I use fish on my local (mac + homebrew) machine and it seems to have inherited from my local machine, its nice to be using fish in the sprite, but seems weird that $SHELL in the sprite points to non-existent path. Slightly concerning that a local env var is being transferred to a remote machine without my explicit permission, I have some sensitive env vars locally.

  • spondyl 43 minutes ago
    Philosophically, I like Fly and have been a customer since very early on.

    That said, I dread having to do anything CLI related, which for hobby projects is like once every few weeks.

    Glancing at the docs for Sprite, I worry that this will be another CLI where a good 95% of the time that I go to invoke a command, my workflow is interrupted by an auto-updater that takes longer than whatever interaction I'm trying to do and derails my train of thought.

  • mcintyre1994 1 hour ago
    Okay this is super interesting!

    As I was reading this I was a bit confused by the issues they mention, but at work I use Claude SSHed to a persistent dev server and I’d be annoyed if I didn’t have eg my git repos there all the time or any part of that workflow was ephemeral. I’m not really aware of what everyone else is doing with sandboxes etc.

    But the bit at the end with the MDM server made it click for me. I’ve started generating tiny iOS apps for personal software stuff, because they solve data storage better than the web (at least on iOS). A database on some other server seems like a bad fit/overkill for this stuff, client side storage is too flaky because Safari. But iOS apps are limiting in their own annoying ways compared to web apps.

    This looks like a really interesting solution, I can just store the data on a sprite with SQLite or whatever. Visit its URL to use my app, then does it go away on its own after a short time? I could have done that before with a server with storage, but this seems easier/probably cheaper.

    If this works well/the way I’m hoping it might be the sweet spot for simple personal software that needs persistent data and you want to run anywhere.

    One feature that would make this really nice is if it could have something like Vercel preview environments, where I need to auth my fly account to view the URL. That'd solve the public URL without me needing to do my own auth thing in every app.

  • yoavsha1 1 hour ago
    I know it's one me for thinking this -- since the domain is fly.io -- but I was really hoping this is some local solution. Not self-hosted, but just local. A thin command line wrapper to something (docker? bubblewrap?) that gave me sort of a containerized "VM" experience for my local machine using CoW.
    • _kb 7 minutes ago
      Check out LXC and the wider Incus set of projects: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/.

      Running IncusOS on some local hardware with ZFS underneath is a phenomenally powerful sandbox.

  • abelanger 10 hours ago
    This is seriously cool - it's exactly the DX and API I've been waiting for from sandboxed execution providers.

    I'd love to be able to configure the base image/VM in a way that doesn't bundle coding tools or anything else I don't need, and comes with some other binaries installed (I'm more interested in using this as an API for a sandbox use-case I have). Is there a way to do this at the moment / is this on the roadmap?

    Another option would be configuring the sprite via checkpoint and then cloning the checkpoint from a base sprite, but I don't see this option anywhere either.

    • indigodaddy 4 hours ago
      Yes! It would be kinda cool to have the ability to docker-deploy (think the fly method even -- just to get your sprite on its feet the way YOU want it) a base sprite image and then just go from there in the normal sprite way from then on.
  • chrismccord 5 hours ago
    I've been having so much fun working on sprites (and working with sprites) the last the several months. There's some neat parts of the Elixir side of this we're going to open source soon.

    Also check out the 5 min demo we put out where I walk thru some sprite basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BfTLlwO4hw

    • tptacek 5 hours ago
      One of the coolest things about this is that Claude in his environment --- without him asking to --- knows how to drive Sprites. If you ask it to run a server, it will register it as a local service so it survives reboots. Without you asking to, it'll checkpoint when it makes big changes. I think this is kind of freaky.

      I can't say enough how, if you're using this like Kurt and Chris have been, you have like, a dozen sleeping Sprites in your Sprite list. If you're not doing anything with them, they're not really costing you anything. When you want to do something new, there's no point figuring out which of your existing Sprites to do it on. Just make a new one.

      Always having a sane place to run anything I happen to be doing, without making any decisions, it's a weird feeling.

      • mcintyre1994 52 minutes ago
        That’s a great demo! For curious mere mortals, are all those custom instructions that make Claude know how to use it public? I’d like to learn how to drive it myself too, just out of curiosity!
      • indigodaddy 4 hours ago
        Do we pay a storage penalty for inactive sprites?
        • tptacek 4 hours ago
          You pay for the storage you actually use (not the raw capacity). If you build, like, a relatively complicated Python web service with some assets, and all the build deps that go with that, you might be on the hook for, like, 90 cents in a month.
          • indigodaddy 4 hours ago
            Right that makes sense thank you
  • senko 9 hours ago
    I might have missed this in the docs, but is there a way to fork/clone a sprite, or restore a checkpoint into a new one?

    Use cases: set up my preferred env in one sprite and use that as a template for others; or fire off a few independent sprites with claude code exploring alternative solutions, then choose a winner and reap the rest.

    • tptacek 9 hours ago
      It's coming, and it'll make sense how and why next week when I run the "how this shit works" post.

      I actually pushed to include it in the launch release. You'd have to ask Kurt why he didn't, but I think the idea is just to get more real-world usage first.

      • mcintyre1994 47 minutes ago
        Do you expect that to replace git worktree for getting Claude to work on multiple things in parallel? That was something I was curious about watching the demo video.
  • dotemacs 2 hours ago
    I saw this headline, saw the tweets and missed what this was about.

    Then read Simon Willison's breakdown and got the 'Aha!'.

    I like what they've done, played with it and immediately started to plan how I'd try to implement it myself.

    I guess this will be the way to go, for development setups instead of using a dedicated machine. Especially when mobile clients are created for Sprites.

  • johnfn 11 hours ago
    Wow, this looks absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to take it for a spin. I'm actually surprised it isn't seeing more traction here!

    In particular, I'm really excited about the extremely fast start up time and checkpointing. I'm curious if anyone knows any alternatives in this space?

  • sheepscreek 19 hours ago
    > Claude is a hyper-productive five-year-old savant. It’s uncannily smart, wants to stick its finger in every available electrical socket, and works best when you find a way to let it zap itself.

    This alone was worth the upvote!

  • timabdulla 2 hours ago
    This seems cool, but beware that Fly's other products are not exactly models of stability and polish.

    API downtime is a semi-frequent occurrence, as are transient API errors and slowness.

    I've also had a ticket open with support for weeks due to rampant billing issues. For instance, a destroyed instance still shows up in my usage report as actively accruing billed time, and at a rate faster than is even possible (something like 2 hours for every 1 actual hour that has passed.)

    They've released two new products in the AI space, this and Phoenix.new, and my worry is that they are focused on new products over making what they have good and reliable.

    • cschmatzler 14 minutes ago
      yeah nobody should use this based on reliability and support alone
  • cyberax 6 minutes ago
    Nice. I'm trying it for our CI/CD, with GitHub actions just launching sprites.
  • godzillafarts 7 hours ago
    > When you start a feature branch on your own, do you create an entirely new development environment to do it?

    … yes? We have a few wrapper scripts around worktree operations that copy some docker volumes (pg data, bundle cache, etc.) from the base and spins up an entirely new stack on different ports with a host alias. We don’t have to install any deps beyond that because we copied over the ruby gems bundle cache and we’re using Yarn PnP + “zero installs” for client-side deps.

    • jagged-chisel 5 hours ago
      Wait - you have a repository with a dev environment, and now that you want a new feature branch, you’re creating an entirely new dev environment?

      Maybe I’ve been isolated from The World for too long, but this sounds … unhealthy.

  • resonious 45 minutes ago
    Would LOVE a Termux build of the CLI. I ran the linux install script and got an incompatible binary.
  • valinator 5 hours ago
    > There are some important million-person apps, but most of them just destroy civil society, melt our brains, and arrange chauffeurs for individual cheeseburgers.

    All the cool technical stuff aside - this, for me, was the standout line of the article

  • qhwudbebd 1 day ago
    AFAIK fly.io run firecracker and cloud-hypervisor VMs. This seems to have a copy-on-write filesystem underneath.

    Given their principled take on only trusting full-VM boundaries, I doubt they moved any of the storage stack into the untrusted VM.

    So maybe a virtio-block device passing through discard to some underlying CoW storage stack, or maybe virtio-fs if it's running on ch instead of fc? Would be interesting to hear more about the underlying design choices and trade-offs.

    Edit: from their website, "Since it's just ext4, you won't run into weird edge cases like you might with NFS or FUSE mounts. You can happily use shared memory files, for example, so you can run SQLite in all its modes." So it's a virtio block device supporting discard that's exposed to the VM. Interesting; fc doesn't support virtio discard passthrough, and support for ch is still in progress...

    • tptacek 17 hours ago
      I have a post coming next week about the guts of this thing, but I'm curious why you think we'd avoid running the storage stack inside the VM. From my perspective that's safer than running it outside the VM.
      • qhwudbebd 10 hours ago
        My impression is that you (very reasonably) treat anything inside the VM as untrusted. If you want trusted rollback, presumably that implies that the VM can't have any ability to tamper with the snapshot?

        But maybe you have parts of the stack that don't need to be trusted inside the VM somehow? Looking forward to the article.

      • wmf 11 hours ago
        Safer from what? It depends whether you're protecting the infra or the data.
        • tptacek 11 hours ago
          They're closely linked; protecting the infra is protecting the data.
  • dtkav 1 day ago
    fly.io is doing really good work. I've super enjoyed building our product on their platform. I love fly-replay combined with super fast start-up.

    I've been thinking a lot about how to run agents (and skills) securely while giving them a lot of powerful capabilities.

    I recently used their macaroons library to turn arbitrary API keys (e.g. for stripe's API) into macaroons. I route requests for an upstream host (like stripe) through Envoy as a mitm proxy which injects the real creds after verifying the macaroon.

    It is such a powerful pattern. I'm always worried about leaking sensitive keys through prompt injection attacks (or just sending them to anthropic), but in this model you can attenuate the keys (both capabilities & validity window) client side. The Envoy proxy lives inside my flycast network so it can't be accessed externally.

    It would be so cool if fly built something like this into sprites.dev (though I can see how it would be spooky to have fly install their own certs for stripe, etc...)

    • tptacek 1 day ago
      If you read Ben Toews work on the tokenizer you have a good sense of where I want Sprites to go with key leaks and prompt injection:

      https://fly.io/blog/tokenized-tokens/

      • dtkav 1 day ago
        Awesome stuff! Thanks for the reply.

        Tokenizer is an explicit proxy though right?

        My use case is very similar, but I wanted a transparent proxy so I could run unmodified scripts. It is a tricky design decision though.

        I also mount a little fuse filesystem that mints macaroon on read (with a shorter lifetime, probably inspired by y'all but i forget from where).

        I work on realtime collaboration of markdown files (currently in Obsidian), which has become a shared-context substrate for agents, skills, etc.. Our own company workspace has skills that have scoped access to fly, stripe, gmail, etc. We're definitely drinking the file-over-app personal-software-for-teams Kool-Aid, so the problem space for us includes access control and auditing.

        Love your work :)

        • tptacek 15 hours ago
          We have enough control over the execution environment in a Sprite (unlike a Fly Machine, where the implied Linux contract we have with our users gets in the way) that we can trivially hide explicit proxies.

          We can also attach Macaroons to Fly Machines and Sprites for configurable ambient privileges, something I've wanted us to expose as a feature for a very long time.

          • dtkav 12 hours ago
            Awesome, i look forward to that. I think that could be a major differentiator for sprites. I wish i could work on that problem at fly.io scale.

            What is the contract with sprites? Is it just built-with-linux but not promising Linux? Or is it more like a machine but y'all control the container image?

            • tptacek 12 hours ago
              There's no "formal" contract in either place but people running on Fly Machines expect that there's nothing at all between them and the kernel, and we don't have that expectation in Sprites; we can do whatever we want. :)

              I don't want to get too far into the rest of the details only because I'm writing this up for next week. They're not that interesting technically, but they're a really big deal for us in other ways.

              • dtkav 12 hours ago
                Great, i look forward to reading it.
    • CGamesPlay 8 hours ago
      Did you write up anything about this? Is this off the shelf behavior for Envoy or did you create this API yourself?
      • dtkav 8 hours ago
        I can open source it next week when i get a chance.
  • ksclk 27 minutes ago
    Does cron work (wake up the vm) there?
  • setheron 10 hours ago
    On one hand it sounds cool. On the other, I feel like I missed it.

    Is this just a fancy VPS like digital ocean with, https endpoint, snapshot and restore?

    (Same thing goes for exe.dev)

    • tptacek 9 hours ago
      Yes, plus:

      * Near-instant creation

      * Automatic spin-down scale-to-zero, so you're not paying for it when it's not in use.

      If you're using these like we are internally, you've got like 2 dozen of them sitting around in the background sleeping. They're BIC disposable computers. "When in doubt just make another one."

      • setheron 9 hours ago
        I see.

        Also "containers" always had the option to attach durable storage via bind mounts.

        I still get confused by the "this isn't containers" but it's kind of similar.

        Maybe I am just too caught up in semantics.

        A VPS that is instant to boot, super simple automatic routing and https proxy, with snapshot and durable is a win regardless.

        • tptacek 9 hours ago
          "Containers" are that, and fast, in part because they share kernels, so there's no serious rebooting happening. But the consequence of that design is you share a kernel with untrusted cotenants.

          And then there's just the idea of being able to pull these out of the sky literally whenever you want one. If you want to try something new out real quick, it makes no sense to figure out which of your existing Sprites to use. Just make a new one. If you're a little OCD, like I am, every once in awhile you can go prune, if you really care.

          • rendaw 7 hours ago
            The post says "hardware isolated" but below in the sandbox it says firecracker, which I thought were supposed to be a secure way to run containers from multiple tenants on a single host. Also I thought Fly machines were already using firecracker.

            I'm having trouble understanding the difference to Fly machines. If you spin up a Debian container on a machine with a persistent volume, doesn't that have everything this does? Is this about providing a layer of useful configuration/management software on top?

            • tptacek 7 hours ago
              Subtle to explain. I'll explain better later this week. For now though, just know: every Sprite is under the hood a KVM VM.
      • karmajunkie 6 hours ago
        something that isn’t clear to me: what’s the billing when i’m not actively using a sprite? does that go to zero as well, or am i still being billed for storage?
        • csomar 5 hours ago
          If it's similar to cloudflare, then it should be usage based. That is you only pay for what is active. (ie: if you are running a task that is waiting on network for 1 hour, you don't pay for cpu but your app is loaded and you are paying for memory). So if your app is dormant (not using cpu or memory), you only pay for the storage you are using.
          • karmajunkie 5 hours ago
            yeah reading further into the docs it looks like that’s the model. storage is pretty cheap, $.00068/gb-hr, so a 100GB disk runs you about 1.6 cents per day.
            • tptacek 5 hours ago
              Note you're paying for what you use, not the capacity currently allocated to your Sprite.
      • csomar 5 hours ago
        That's roughly what Cloudflare containers are right? (with migrations being the checkpoints?). Cloudflare containers are also nearly instant and have scale-to-zero pricing. The only difference here is the CLI?

        Your pricing looks competitive on compute but roughly 4-5 times more expensive on memory and double on storage.

    • roncesvalles 6 hours ago
      Basically endgame VPS. Instant creation, snapshotting, restore. Actually quite impressive even if you don't buy the whole Claude spiel.
    • zackify 9 hours ago
      I wonder the same thing. What’s so different than your own vps and using lxd to create a container. Make two bash aliases and wow you can go in and out quickly and recreate it with one command.
      • tptacek 9 hours ago
        If you have an LXD setup working for your own workloads that's working well for you, that's awesome. Why would we want to talk you out of that? Fundamentally you're getting at the difference between "elastic" cloud services and personal infrastructure. Personal infra is great!

        If it helps: Jerome has been working for a couple months on a local, open-source Rust version of Sprites, so you can use the same DX with your own infrastructure. We just think this is the right "shape" for modern sandboxes, wherever you actually run them.

  • psanford 14 hours ago
    Playing around with this for a small amount of time, it is very neat but also there are a bunch of things that are unclear / undocumented (I assume the documentation is coming so I'm not faulting them for it not being there yet).

    Some things that are unclear:

    - How should I auth to github? sprite console doesn't use ssh (afaik) so I guess not agent forwarding?

    - What on machine api's are available? Can I use the fly oidc provider[1]? There's a /.sprite/api.sock but curl'ing /v1/tokens/oidc gets a 404.

    - How much is it going to cost me? I know there is pricing but its hard to figure out what actual usage would be like. Also I don't see any usage info in the webui right now.

    [1]: https://fly.io/blog/oidc-cloud-roles/

    • tptacek 10 hours ago
      Don't think of this as in any way connected to the Fly Machines API. For now, just take it on its own terms. We'll have an open-source local version of it relatively soon, if that clarifies anything.
    • psanford 14 hours ago
      To follow up on this a bit, something that I really want is a way to build and launch apps from an llm really easily. I am imagining and environment with a database, object storage, and a publicly reachable webserver. I think this could be that with OIDC auth to an s3 bucket and litestream.

      I was previously thinking about doing the same thing on my homeserver with tailscale to expose the web interface publicly and tailscale oidc auth to an s3 bucket for object storage.

      • mrkurt 9 hours ago
        I have a Sprite with an auth token to an isolated Sprite org, it works really well for this.

        SQLite works great for my apps. I haven't needed object storage yet, storing files on disk is enough.

    • fideloper 12 hours ago
      i believe the .sprite dir has some stuff to help claude answer those questions. haven’t done it myself but my friend said he was able to get claude to set it all up for him (yolo mode helps) including connecting to github.
  • mwcampbell 1 day ago
    I want something like this, but running on my own box. I now have a Linux box with plenty of RAM and storage under my desk. (It happens to be an NVIDIA DGX Spark, but I'm not really interested in passing the GPU through to these sandboxed VMs; I know that's not practical anyway.) Maybe I'll see if I can hack together a local solution like this using Firecracker.
    • haute_cuisine 57 minutes ago
      What about `docker run`? It'll be the same isolated container that keeps state. You can also mount some local directory
    • tptacek 18 hours ago
      That's coming. It's what Jerome has been working on these past few months.
    • indigodaddy 22 hours ago
      Maybe bend smolvm to your needs?
  • aostiles 4 hours ago
    This seems cool but maybe not for a production setting requiring concurrency? I just signed up on PAYG which offers 3 concurrent sprites. I only see an option to upgrade to 10 concurrent sprites.
    • tptacek 4 hours ago
      Without getting into Kurt's galaxy-brained take on the declining importance of "production" in a post-AI world, I'd say: yeah, run prod apps on Fly Machines, for more predictable performance, scaling, and pricing. Do exploratory computing --- "figuring out what you'd run on a Fly Machine" --- in Sprites.
  • zaptheimpaler 6 hours ago
    The sprite installer got stuck after "Installed to ..." for me. After waiting a few minutes I just ctrl+ced and looked at what it does after and manually ran "sprite auth setup --token <token>" and that seems to just hang for me.
  • dangoodmanUT 5 hours ago
    I thought fly.io snapshots weren't guaranteed to stick around? Although I can can't find the docs mentioning it, but i checked within the last few months... maybe they changed it?
    • tptacek 5 hours ago
      More complicated than that, but with respect to Sprites --- this is a totally new stack.
  • jmogly 1 day ago
    Like it, a lot. I think the future of software is going to be unimaginably dynamic. Maybe apps will not have statically defined feature sets, they will adjust themselves around what the user wants and the data it has access to. I’m not entirely sure what that looks like yet, but things like this are a step in that direction.
    • dmux 1 day ago
      > I think the future of software is going to be unimaginably dynamic.

      >...I’m not entirely sure what that looks like yet, but things like this are a step in that direction.

      This made me stop and think for a moment as to what this would look like as well. I'm having trouble finding it, but I think there was a post by Joe Armstrong (of Erlang) that talked about globally (as in across system boundaries, not global as in global variable) addressable functions?

  • siliconc0w 7 hours ago
    It'd cool to create a MCP for this so you can have your agents run persistent code/other agents.

    This is a large pain point today if you aren't technical, most of the chat interfaces just let you create frontend only apps.

    • tptacek 7 hours ago
      You can do this now without an MCP, by auth'ing the `sprite` command inside of a Sprite and telling Claude to go document it for you. You can do things like "make me three versions of this feature on three different Sprites so I can compare them". It is spooky how easy it is to teach agents this stuff.
  • CGamesPlay 19 hours ago
    I spun one up, started a server on port 8080, ran `sprite url`, it gave me a URL, that URL just has `{ "error": "unauthorized" }`. How am I supposed to access it?
    • mrkurt 19 hours ago
      sprite url update --auth public

      It requires your api token by default.

      • indigodaddy 15 hours ago
        Do we handle our own certs or do you have a proxy in front of the sprites that can do auto ssl stuff?
        • tptacek 15 hours ago
          We handle all the SSL stuff. Sprites run on the same Anycast network with the same control plane as Fly Machines, which are built for srs bzns.
      • CGamesPlay 19 hours ago
        Oh, thanks, that works. ([edit] rewrote this whole post) I guess I need to install my own tunneling into the VM to do web development on it, but that's not so bad. The lack of regional support is crippling, because whatever region you put me in is ~200ms from me and the typing lag is terrible.

        I'd love to adopt this for all my development (which I currently do using rented cloud instances, so I'm pretty comfortable with the remote development paradigm). I'm especially excited about the snapshot/clone pattern, and have (this past week) been researching solutions for exactly this problem.

        Hope you launch multiple regions for this ASAP. Will be watching.

        • mrkurt 17 hours ago
          If you `sprite console` to it, it'll forward any ports you open to localhost. You can tunnel almost everything through the CLI with the `sprite proxy` command.
  • a_lanfranco 1 day ago
    sprites.dev looks very interesting to me. Is there a way to set up a limit to how much scaling a sprite can get, or to set a spending limit? I wouldn't want to spin something up, and then be surprised by an unexpectedly high bill.
  • adastra22 6 hours ago
    > Stop killing your sandboxes every time you use them.

    Fo people do this? I’ve never heard of it.

  • psanford 18 hours ago
    What is the criteria for a sprite being "idle"? Is it no network activity or is it cpu based?
    • mrkurt 10 hours ago
      It stays awake if you have an open connection (like sprite console) or an exec session if running and producing stdout.

      You can specify a max exec time for a process when you launch it via the API.

    • simonw 11 hours ago
      Looks like it's no network activity for 30 seconds.
  • obsoleetorr 9 hours ago
    something simpler I've did, in the same spirit: LXC containers (using Incus) in a VM. LXC containers look and feel like VMs, but are very lightweight. And the VM they all run in provide the hard sandbox.

    and when I spin up a new LXC container cloud-init sets it up with the agents and my repos inside

  • skybrian 1 day ago
    This sounds great and it's roughly what exe.dev is doing too. Coincidence?
    • tptacek 1 day ago
      This has been in the works for quite awhile here. We put a long bet on "slow create fast start/stop" --- which is a really interesting and useful shape for execution environments --- but it didn't make sense to sandboxers, so "fast create" has been the White Whale at Fly.io for over a year.
    • HumanOstrich 1 day ago
      Not really. One of the primary features of sprites.dev that I don't see anywhere on exe.dev is a fast way to create and restore checkpoints, like a git repo for your entire VM.

      This is needed for sandboxes if you don't want to throw them away and start over when something goes wrong.

      With sprites.dev you can create an additional checkpoint and then turn Claude Code (or your preferred agent) loose to do anything. Even if it burns down the sandbox you can just restore a checkpoint in about a second.

      • crawshaw 11 hours ago
        [exe.dev co-founder here] If you are curious, we have a `clone` command coming soon for sub-section creation of a new VM out of an existing VM. This is our first pass at checkpointing, rather than introducing an independent `snapshot` noun, you can keep a VM around as the snapshot.

        We realize that is not going to cover all the business cases we have been discussing with customers and plan to introduce a snapshot concept (in particular for rewinding the state of a VM to an automatic backup), but we have a lot of FS work underway before we can launch it. There are some other things we want out of our VMs that we cannot do using conventional cloud techniques, so we have code to write.

        • tptacek 9 hours ago
          Exe.dev is very cool.
      • skybrian 21 hours ago
        Yes that’s certainly a great feature and they don’t have it currently. For what it’s worth, they do have a teaser about “Persistent disks with some really interesting work coming soon.”

        https://blog.exe.dev/meet-exe.dev

    • memset 1 day ago
      I have just now learned about exe.dev and it looks awesome.

      I really hate that modern development means not having persistent disk. I’m glad there are new options coming out which let you do this in and easier way than managing my own EC2 instances!

  • mbm 7 hours ago
    This is amazing. Great job Fly team!
    • mbm 4 hours ago
      Hmm, so even just doing a simple ls -la on the home dir is occasionally taking ~10s. Other times, it's instant (I'm on a stable 1 Gbps connection).

      Have been experiencing intermittent connection drops as well.

  • memset 1 day ago
    Could you clarify what this actually is?

    Would I think of this as an EC2 instance which automatically and quickly scales to zero, with pricing only for resources consumed? (CPU and RAM when up, and disk all the time?)

    • simonw 1 day ago
      Yeah that's about right.

      It's a fast starting and fast pausing persistent VM, with a ton of built in developer tools (including a preconfigured Claude Code) and an extra JSON API for executing commands within it so you can treat it as a sandbox.

      You may find my writeup here useful: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jan/9/sprites-dev/

  • nextaccountic 1 day ago
    How exactly can code agents make use of this? You install claude code inside a Sprite and run it there? Do you also need to put all your codebase in this sprite?
    • tptacek 1 day ago
      Claude Code is already in the Sprite; just create one and type "claude". But they have an API and Claude (or Gemini or Codex) can use them remotely too. They're disposable computers. Use them however you want.
      • indigodaddy 4 hours ago
        Will you guys get mad if I try to do something like transcription with a tiny model on a sprite?
    • hashim-warren 14 hours ago
      You can use git to pull down code from a remote repo
  • indigodaddy 1 day ago
    So this is neat and useful and I think will/should get traction.

    So let's say sprite is my building/dev ground floor. I get my thing/app to where I want it, but at the end of the day I think my thing/app is so awesome that it should be a production app for the whole world, and, I want to actually deploy it on fly, say.

    Have you guys thought about that workflow, and what it might take to push button/migrate a sprite app over to fly?

    Also, any plans for GPU sprites?

    • tptacek 1 day ago
      It depends on which Fly person you talk to. If you talk to Kurt he'll try to sell you on his crazy dream of how all software is going to be malleable and "prod" doesn't mean anything anymore. If you ask me: tell Claude to make a Dockerfile of the current state of your Sprite, and then deploy it as a Fly Machine. It's a good question, and we're working out how the transition from Sprite to Fly Machine works, but that's how I'd do it today.

      I don't think we're going to do anything new with GPUs any time soon.

  • jamietanna 23 hours ago
    Unsure if it's an intended typo: `rm -rf $HMOE/bin`
    • CGamesPlay 20 hours ago
      I ran the command to check and it erased /bin and now my sprite is busted. But I was able to restore from a checkpoint and it's all good.
      • mrkurt 17 hours ago
        Intended typo so you can see restore happen ;)
  • bravura 3 hours ago
    Now, please make it easy to control network egress!
  • Spivak 8 hours ago
    I'm not really sure I get the value of these being remotely hosted. We're writing code on super powerful machines with hypervisors built in.

    My libvirt setup does this right now, I have a little dumb cli I wrote that lets me create, start, stop, save, restore, and destroy preconfigured machines. I use it for testing provisioning scripts and playbooks. You get the full cloud experience by including a cloud-init ISO so you can ssh to it the moment it boots with my key. Didn't realize I was at the frontier of computing paradigms.

    Don't get me wrong the interface fly has is super nice but it feels like the endgame isn't remote hosted computers but a nice user-friendly interface (i.e. what docker did) but it's for persistent local VMs.

    • haute_cuisine 50 minutes ago
      Thanks for the writeup on the libvirt setup. At some point I used local docker containers for this.
    • indigodaddy 4 hours ago
      Sure, but plenty of users don't want to have to do/configure all that locally, sorta like I want shared hosting vs my own VPS as a sort of analogy.
  • stogot 10 hours ago
    > I have kids. They have devices. I wanted some control over them. So I did what many of you would do in my situation: I vibe-coded an MDM.

    Wait, what?

  • sora2video 3 hours ago
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  • visarga 9 hours ago
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    • tptacek 9 hours ago
      You feel wrong. I would eat a bug before I ran LLM text on our blog. This one thing --- the fact that you can't negate a clause without people claiming an LLM wrote it --- this alone do I place angrily at the feet of AI.
      • benatkin 7 hours ago
        Peoples' writing is influenced by what they read, so such a strong objection to someone suggesting that an LLM might have been involved in the text of a blog post won't fly with me.
        • tptacek 7 hours ago
          Shrug-emoji. I copyedited this post. I get that people don't have a lot of my writing to go off of on HN, it's a real problem I have.