Memorizing phone numbers

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41 points | by speckx 3 days ago

17 comments

  • papanoah 4 hours ago
    I remember my own phone number and the new emergency number from the IT crowd episode: 0118999881999119725 3

    It's funny how the brain works. I don't even remember my girlfriend or my mother's number, but I can recognize it when I see it.

    • sjw987 9 minutes ago
      They're not just THE emergency services. They're YOUR emergency services.

      Nicer ambulances, faster response times, and better looking drivers.

      The bizarre things that our brains choose to remember. It must be that catchy jingle.

  • Brajeshwar 3 hours ago
    I do the opposite of the author. I tend to add names to the Phone contacts of people I interact with, even if briefly. Sometimes, I text/call a fixer-upper and realized that we had interacted 10+ years ago. Similar to emails, at time, I go back and reply to the same email thread from 15+ years ago.

    On the phone number thingy, I use the rhyme-ish way of remembering it by saying it aloud, and then using it on the phones and I remember quite a few phone numbers. Besides the numbers of my immediate family, I can dial my sister, a few friends from school and some of our neighbors (most of the number do not seem to exist anymore) back home on the keypad from muscle memory.

    I try to teach my kids to remember some numbers and I try and test them once a while. They do think, I’m an irritant.

    During School days, amongst friends, our tactics of remember historical dates were to prepend phone number patterns and associating them to the events/person etc. My wife is usually surprised when I recite phone number of recent visits to clinics, places, etc. This one are usually ephemeral and I usually forget them after a while. I like to pretend play Sherlock and look around things, remember them when visiting new places. :-)

  • WaitWaitWha 6 hours ago
    I went the other way. I do not memorize anyone's number, just mine. Or, how it used to be before we had to know every incoming number (versus just outgoing numbers, which was pasted right next to the phone on the wall).

    I almost never pick up the phone. If someone wants to reach me they will send me some (insert tech) message or leave me a voice message. If it is an emergency they should not be calling me in the first place - rarely in place to respond to the emergency.

    I do keep family and friends' numbers in my contact lists and have a phone numbers in my wallet to contact when they find my body.

  • andai 4 hours ago
    Tangential but I was thinking recently how odd it is that nothing digital decays.

    (Catastrophic loss aside, but that's not the same. It goes from pristine to gone in an instant.)

    You open a file from decades ago and it's rendered exactly the same as something from this morning. There's no indication of staleness.

    There's no natural pruning or decay. The whole thing begets endless hoarding.

    In physical systems there's a natural friction, and it takes time/space/Energy to keep stuff. With digital it's the reverse.

    My contacts list is 99% crap, half of it from decades ago.

    90% is people I met once (e.g. to buy/sell something), then never again.

    I've been wondering if every digital bit of info should have an expiration date. At which point it asks "is this still relevant?" and if not, self destructs.

    Or at least renders old stuff as progressively more gross, inviting me to clean / remove it.

  • ElijahLynn 9 hours ago
    I've been teaching my kids to memorize my phone number as well as their mother's number! And I've been working on memorizing numbers of other people close to me. Because it isn't "if" I lose my phone some day, it is "when". So, preparing for that is really important to me!

    I like the technique of not having the name saved in the phone but having the number, then when caller ID comes in I see the number more often.

    • rwbaskette 7 hours ago
      I’ve done this by making every passcode a phone number for someone important. Mom’s phone number unlocks the computer, Dad’s phone number unlocks the tablet.
    • fhdkweig 8 hours ago
      The default contacts app on Android has an export/import feature that will let you backup all the stored numbers into a .vcf file that you can then copy to a backup site.
      • xboxnolifes 7 hours ago
        This is not relevant to the problem at hand.
  • helterskelter 6 hours ago
    Speaking from personal experience, you should have the phone numbers of your attorney and your family members tattooed to the backs of your eyelids. And keep bail money under the insoles of your shoes. Cops never look there.

    Laugh it up, but it just might happen to you one day.

    • dataflow 5 hours ago
      > your attorney

      How does this work? Is everyone supposed to have a designated attorney throughout their life? I feel like I must've missed some memo growing up.

      • helterskelter 4 hours ago
        You do if you plan your estate. It's not just for assets, it's stuff like an advanced health directive (ie, what do you want if you're in a coma for a year?), and power of attorney (who calls the shots while you're incapacitated?). You want this stuff even if you're married -- perhaps especially if you're married, it could save your spouse a lot of trouble during a very difficult time. If you ever make a big transaction, or sign something that deals with $100,000 or more, you want an attorney to look it over first.

        You don't need to pay them every month...just have them do estate documents and touch base with them once or twice a year so they remember who you are. You'll get their cell number.

        Important to call your attorney instead of family because you might only get N number of calls before the jail cuts you off, even if nobody answers. Your family might be asleep or have lost their phone or whatever, but if you call your attorney they'll make sure to get ahold of somebody that can bail you out. (IIRC your attorney cannot bail you out themselves)

  • apparent 3 hours ago
    I can recall more phone numbers from my first 18 years of life than the most recent 18, even though I haven't dialed those numbers in a very long time.

    And at the rate I'm going, I doubt if I'll memorize more than 3 phone numbers in the coming 18 years.

  • totetsu 6 hours ago
    Using some pre-memorized number associations helps a lot with this, like peg systems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_peg_system

    personally I do something like 0 egg 1 pen 2 swan 3 butt 4 sailboat .. etc.. and then make a little story for the number using the interaction of those things. This is not for long term memorisations, but just for recall in the mid term.

    • nanomonkey 4 hours ago
      What are the other digit/noun combinations you use? This seems better thought out than the wikipedia page you linked.
      • totetsu 3 hours ago
        The combinations I use are probably not as good for you as ones you would come up with for yourself. I would suggest just drawing out the numbers 0-9 and looking at the shapes and sketch a few things under each one, that look like that. If need be, rotate or flip the shape, or embellish slightly so long as they are all distinct. They should be easy to imagine objects that can be used flexibly. Salience for memory can come through things that give emotional response, so don't be shy about it.

        and then use these to make simple stories like .. 13250 .. pen poked into the butt of a swan who yells grumpily and throws an egg..

    • andai 5 hours ago
      Oh my god you just cured my inability to memorize the major memory system. The butt is so intuitive.
  • alberth 6 hours ago
    It’s a Catch-22.

    If you don’t memorize numbers and call your family from your usual phone (via saved contacts), they’ll answer because they recognize the number.

    But if your phone breaks and you have to call from another phone, memorizing their number won’t help much—since most people don’t answer calls from unknown numbers.

    • dataflow 5 hours ago
      > But if your phone breaks and you have to call from another phone, memorizing their number won’t help much—since most people don’t answer calls from unknown numbers.

      So then you text or leave a voicemail?

  • baobun 8 hours ago
    My memory is generally crap and hasn't gotten better with age. Though I've recently noticed I have acquired quite a skill for memorising longish random passwords and number sequences quite well, getting better at it over the years. No deliberate technique to it, just consistent practice forced by paranoid security and compartmentalisation.
    • andai 5 hours ago
      A friend passed on to me the knowledge that the skill of "what were we just talking about" can be improved dramatically with effort. (Indeed even under the influence of certain substances which significantly impair short term memory!)

      The secret? "Just try remembering a little harder."

      I went from being totally crap at keeping track of conversations, to significantly above average, by just forcing myself to try and remember a little harder, every time I forgot what we were talking about.

      (I don't know about other types of memory, but one proved Surprisingly Trainable.)

    • SoftTalker 7 hours ago
      Yeah it happens naturally with anything you use a lot.

      When I was in high school I knew dozens of phone numbers. Today not so much (though I still remember the number we had at the house where I grew up, and a few others that were for my good friends).

      • technothrasher 7 hours ago
        > I still remember the number we had at the house where I grew up

        One of my earliest memories is of my mother drilling my brother and I on our telephone number. She did a good job. I'll never forget it: AMherst 3-7004.

  • andai 5 hours ago
    Isn't it remarkable how rapidly an entire civilization lost this skill? Makes me wonder what else this applies to.
    • the_hoffa 4 hours ago
      I don't know if it's really that remarkable .. I don't think we can really attribute losing one specific type of memory over an entire civilization in about one generation such a "bad" thing.

      The phone wasn't a household staple for pretty much the whole of humanity. It's really only been about a single generation (well, maybe 2 generations at this point) that the telephone to which you had to remember phone numbers was an important thing. Even in the early 1900's you would pick up the phone and an operator would answer and you had to ask them to connect you to a specific place/person.

      And given that there 21 year olds alive today who never had a land-line (or even cable television) in their house or have even seen a dial phone, across the world, and that's only increased, it's not that surprising that we don't choose to actively remember phone numbers anymore .. it's just not "built in" to our core abilities yet because it was never something we needed to do on any type of evolutionary or generational scale.

      I don't necessarily disagree that, on a whole, many people rely on technology so much that it has made them blind to the world around them (like so many who can't even read the map on their phone without blue lines telling them where to go). But I do think that not remembering every single phone number isn't something to really be concerned with at the human level .. not to say we shouldn't be teaching the importance of remembering certain numbers for emergency purposes though.

    • Ekaros 5 hours ago
      How many poems can you recite? Or longer quotations? Maybe parts of a play?

      I think there is in general lot less memorization going on in our lives.

      • andai 25 minutes ago
        I've been thinking about that actually. it wasn't so long ago that the entire education system was based around repetition and memorization. Overlearning, in positive terms.

        Especially when it came to the classics and the fundamental knowledge.

        Yet these days, not even our machines, on whom we rely to teach us things, are exposed to more than a single training epoch!

  • mcdonje 8 hours ago
    The "algorithm" is kinda backwards. Like, you need something besides the connection you have with a person to indicate to you the status and nature of that connection?
  • brianzelip 8 hours ago
    This post has a certain old web feel to it. Some technical point to make, wrapped in a personal, candid and reflective narrative.

    ps - definitely teach your kids your number.

  • chrisbrandow 4 hours ago
    This was poignant. Thanks.
  • navigate8310 5 hours ago
    Everything can be anki-fied
  • mindslight 4 hours ago
    That makes two of us!

    When I got my first Android phone in 2010 or whatever, I skipped setting up a phone book because I wanted a secure solution for syncing contacts instead of uploading plaintext names to Google (how quaint of a threat model). I still haven't gotten around to it. The biggest inconvenience is when I want to text/call someone I haven't spoken two in a year or two, don't know their exact number, and I've got to scroll way down the list until I see it.

    Then there are the funny coincidences like my usual Fedex Freight guy's phone number is one digit off from a friend's. That one really threw me the first time.

  • 293984j29384 8 hours ago
    I think this blog post is an insight into mental illness.
    • Lammy 7 hours ago
      Get yourself arrested some time and you'll wish you could remember someone to call lol
    • mithcs 8 hours ago
      Can you explain? I don't get it.