Mixxx: GPL DJ Software

(mixxx.org)

337 points | by brudgers 6 hours ago

26 comments

  • djaychela 6 hours ago
    Used mixxx to do the djing for my wedding last year. Created a collaborative music voting site for the guests, then got all the music and made a mix which worked really well, even going between genres. Had a lot of fun playing with it getting everything ready and it worked with a couple of DJ controllers bought cheaply without any issue.

    I even made a little program to read the now playing track from the sqlite database which then allowed the lights to follow the music (for complex reasons I don't have time to explain).

    Most importantly it worked on the night without missing a beat.

    • jesprenj 5 hours ago
      Can you share the program that reads the now playing track? We use Mixxx at a student radio station and we could maybe try using something like this to show the now-playing track on the website.
      • raphman 2 hours ago
        Not sure whether that's the correct way but it seems to work. AFAICT, there is no "now_playing" field in the sqlite db - but tracks that start playing are added to the `PlaylistTracks` table. That means that if you started two tracks and then pause one or the other and restart it, no row will be added. Only adding a track from the library and then playing it will add to the PlaylistTracks list.

        (Is there a simpler solution I missed?)

          import sqlite3
          import time
          from pathlib import Path
          home = Path.home()
          
          con = sqlite3.connect(f"{home}/.mixxx/mixxxdb.sqlite")
          cur = con.cursor()
          
          def get_track_name():
              global cur
              trackid = cur.execute("SELECT * FROM PlaylistTracks WHERE id=(SELECT max(id) FROM PlaylistTracks);").fetchall()[0][2]
              trackname = cur.execute(f"SELECT * FROM library WHERE id={trackid};").fetchall()[0][2]
              return trackname
          
          now_playing = get_track_name()
          print(now_playing)
          
          while True:
              if (np := get_track_name()) != now_playing:
                  now_playing = np
                  print(np)
              time.sleep(1)
        
        Edit: FWIW, unbox [1] uses the same approach. Edit 2: yes, I should have cleaned up my SQL statements.

        [1] https://github.com/erikrichardlarson/unbox/blob/2182f227a0fc...

      • djaychela 5 hours ago
        I will see... Not being evasive but I'm experiencing terminal illness at the moment so I'm all over the place. It wasn't a complex bit of code though, but I'll see what I can find.
        • tomcam 3 hours ago
          So sorry, brofus. My best to you and yours.

          Also, your channel is fantastic. You’re a good teacher and your voice is excellent.

        • corint 5 hours ago
          Wishing you well - sorry to hear that you're in ill health.
          • djaychela 4 hours ago
            Thank you. Sorry, I had a look but I didn't find the code (it's not in the github repo for the rest of the system I made, and I no longer own the laptop I wrote it on so it's my bad).

            Someone has posted something similar, but it was literally just about 10 lines of python that read the right key in the dictionary and then posted that to a flask web page that another part of the system read to know what track was being played. I'm not a great programmer and it took me maybe 15 minutes to do, so it should be easy enough!

      • Mashimo 5 hours ago
      • Sn0wCoder 3 hours ago
        I have not used Mixxx nor do I have it installed, but might download to check it out.

        But..... If its always in a SQLite DB you should be able to use DB Browser for SQLite to inspect the DB Schema and then write a bash/python (whatever) script to pull the info out.

        RESULTS=$(sqlite-utils "data.db" " SELECT song, artist, duration, FROM my_table WHERE song = 'CURRENT';")

        RESULTS=$(sqlite3 data.db <<EOF SELECT song, artist, duration, FROM my_table WHERE song = 'CURRENT'; EOF )

        I have no idea what the schema looks like but those are just some examples of how straightforward it might be. Run it on CRON (whatever) update as needed. https://cronitor.io/guides/python-cron-jobs

        Once you have the Schema an LLM could most likely do the rest if you are not a programmer, but still need someone to get it added to the site.

    • btown 3 hours ago
      What did you use for the collaborative music voting - or did you make something yourself? For different use cases, I've seen everything used from collaborative Spotify playlists to Google forms, to those "pay a dollar to bump your song request" kiosks in bars! The parallels to ranked-choice voting in politics are relevant too - as well as how you give people a feeling of agency, even if you as the DJ inevitably have veto powers.

      I'm not surprised that startups haven't tackled this, as you inevitably run headfirst into licensing issues - but I'm curious what exists in the open-source world for this!

      • djaychela 3 hours ago
        I made something custom. I can't share the code for it (see my other reply for why), but here's the general deal:

        Wedding website was a django site, with accounts for everyone I invited. I had a separate part of it where the guests could choose an RGB colour, and then choose tracks by searching. I used a spotify API for this, so when they chose a track, if someone chose a similar one (say a specific mix) then they could see this and vote for that. Each guest could choose 10 tracks. I used some HTMX for this as well (first time) and it generally worked pretty well. Database stored the spotify ID/UUID/whatever for each track

        Once everyone had voted, I then bought all the tracks which we were going to play - reason being that I couldn't rely on WiFi on the day, and wanted to be 100% sure it would work, plus I couldn't "DJ" from spotify tracks.

        All of the tracks were then renamed including their spotify ID/UUID/whatever, so the system knew who had voted for a specific track.

        I then made the playlist up in Mixxx, and trimmed tracks to fit better, and made it work musically (my wife is excellent at this, she made it really work, mix wise). Made sure it all played OK.

        The other part of the system was a custom light setup, with sound-reactive LED bars I made up (using ESP8266 and WLED firmware with 150 LEDs per 'stick') with them all being controlled by a custom controller. This system read the track from the Mixxx system (via HTTP request to a flask app I wrote that read the sqlite dB from mixxx to know what track was playing), and then coloured the lights with the colours of the people who had voted for the tracks. Also if you went onto the dancefloor you could 'swipe in' via an RFID label which was in the wristbands, which also reacted to lights and were colour-controlled over DMX.

        The light patterns were sometimes random, or if one was good for a specific track then I programmed that into the system.

        It was all spaghetti code, and the first time I used FastAPI. The code is terrible, and I'm only making it public as I thought it might be useful to someone.

        https://github.com/djaychela/wedding_controller

        I've just had a terminal cancer diagnosis and am no longer doing anything other than trying to stay alive. So please, no grief about the code! I'm sharing this to try to help someone else if they ever want to do something like this...

        • ustad 2 hours ago
          Thanks for sharing this - it’s a really cool project! I love the creativity and thought you put into combining music, lights, and interactivity in such a unique way.

          Wishing you all the best, and thank you for contributing to the community with this, especially under such difficult circumstances.

  • apt-get 6 hours ago
    Been using it for the past few years, nothing bad to say about it, lovely piece of software. Vendor lock-in is very present in this field, with different brands of controllers supported by a myriad of proprietary DJ applications all more interested in onboarding you to their music subscription services rather than implement useful features or support open protocols.

    Meanwhile, Mixxx allows you to write your own adapter scripts for any controller you have (as long as it outputs MIDI), and there's a built-in library featuring scripts for the most common commercial controllers and MIDI devices out there.

    • input_sh 2 hours ago
      To be fair, every commercial competitor (like Rekordbox and Traktor) also supports mapping MIDI devices that are not officially supported.

      But in my experience, you'll never be able to control the jogwheel as precisely as in officially-supported hardware-software combo.

      • shermantanktop 14 minutes ago
        Is it latency? Or granularity? MIDI has upper limits on both…or is it a more subtle quality like ballistics?
    • noman-land 5 hours ago
      I tried it many years ago and this didn't work. Can Mixxx be used with the Rane mixers used with Serato back in the day?
  • quesomaster9000 5 hours ago
    I'm really happy that 2.5 added 'beats until next marker', which together with a USB controller from Numark I have pretty much feature complete DJ setup for under $500 (including cost of laptop & controller) without having to rely on Windows, Mac, subscription licenses or feature-crippled 'lite' versions.

    And it's surprising how quickly people adapt to it when they're used to other setups, within an hour a few people have gone from 'oooh, can I have a go' to showing me their own tips, tricks and different styles.

    Especially combined with a youtube & soundcloud downloader running on a different workspace, I can get pretty much any track into the library within a minute or two.

  • ghomem 26 minutes ago
    Mix is absolutely awesome. One of the most carefully organized open source projects that I've seen.

    Some years ago I made a Mixxx demo video with a DYI "integrated controller". It demos Linux boot to Mixxx, touch screen, beatmatching and some modest effects:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHvW4OsQ2Y

    Mixxx devs: if you are reading this... cheers :-)

  • poopsmithe 41 minutes ago
    I used mixxx to DJ my brother's wedding. I think it was 2013 or 2014. The moment I got the signal to switch to a specific track for the bride's first dance with her Father, mixxx locked up my laptop. Guests were staring at me, one offered a hushed, "they're waiting!" Completely unresponsive, I had to hard reboot my locked up computer and boot back into Ubuntu. Then I opened VLC where I played the tracks for the rest of the evening. Probably not mixxx's fault, but I will never forget that moment.
    • hlzhs 16 minutes ago
      Mixxx dev here. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. We are spending a lot of effort on making Mixxx rock stable.

      Considering that this was more than a decade ago, I'm pretty sure that this bug has been fixed by now.

    • mixmastamyk 27 minutes ago
      Yep, that can happen when computers are involved, and why one needs to practice with a new setup beforehand. Goes for performances or rocket launches.

      During my DJ sessions (and while dabbling in digital audio files from a computer), I usually brought an old Sony Discman loaded with my best tracks on a burnt CD. Kept ready at moments notice in case disaster struck. Sadly crashes weren't uncommon at all in the bad old late 90s when consumer OSs were unstable crap.

      I guess a smart phone could do that duty today, but you'll still need to have an adapter plugged into the mixer beforehand/ready to go to minimize disruption.

  • starkparker 5 hours ago
    Mixx is sneaky good as a TTRPG soundscape mixer. You can queue layer multiple ambiance tracks over tempo-matched music, build soundboards, and hook it all to hardware controls.

    It's overkill, but a lot of similar tools either lock you into a media ecosystem, lack some power-user functionality, have a subscription, or don't work at all on Linux or macOS.

  • joemi 19 minutes ago
    I used to use Mixxx a lot about a decade ago when I was DJing weekly in some bars and also had a weekly radio show. It was great. I'm glad to see it's still around and going strong.
  • treve 4 hours ago
    Also works great with my Traktor mixer. Traktor doesn't have linux support for their software, so I was glad my mixer didn't brick after the switch
    • sim7c00 4 hours ago
      thanks for commenting this. all i needed to know :D
  • tmountain 4 hours ago
    I've been using this to make mix tapes at home (bought a vintage tape player). It has awesome cross fading capabilities, and it does volume normalization out of the box, so it's a very nice piece of software for those features alone. Playlist and library management is also solid. My only complaint is that the UI isn't very intuitive for a non-DJ, and it took me some time to figure out how to do basic stuff, but it's all there in the docs, so you can certainly figure it out.
    • ThatMedicIsASpy 3 hours ago
      I've been setting up a few radio stations with playlists for azuracast for home use. The auto DJ with auto cue is amazing. Next stop is create a radio with a raspberry pi maybe with an amp hat as well.
      • radley 57 minutes ago
        How does the auto DJ compare to something like Pacemaker?
  • weinzierl 3 hours ago
    I use it simply as an audio player. I like the way I can queue up songs and then let the Auto DJ play. I know other audio players can in principle do that but in Mixx it is very explicit. I also like to see key and BPM just to satisfy my curiosity.
  • kristopolous 2 hours ago
    Been using it since ~2006 ... it's pretty great software. Hooking it up to a cheap sub-$100 MIDI controller is amazing.

    Just looked it up - I had no idea it's from 2001 - this puts it in a small group of long-active FLOSS

  • mjsir911 2 hours ago
    I've had a lot of fun setting mixxx up for DJing on my steam deck, with fully scriptable (in javascript) USB hid bindings, I've been able to reverse engineer the steam deck's control schemes to be able to mix quite portably.
  • HelloUsername 2 hours ago
    I very much like the website itself, built to work without Javascript, and doesn't make any external calls as far as I can tell
    • hlzhs 10 minutes ago
      Thanks, we wanted to honor our user's privacy when we redesigned the website.
  • officeplant 2 hours ago
    Been using Mixxx since 2015, I haven't liked every update they put out, but its always been solid software.
  • profsummergig 3 hours ago
    I want to do scratching by pushing a button on my laptop keyboard (instead of dragging the spinning record with my mouse-cursor).

    Can Mixxx do this?

  • cpach 1 hour ago
    What are good controllers for using together with Mixxx?
  • ericzawo 2 hours ago
    RekordBox is a well known piece of s** and it's great to see someone try to enter the arena. Now we need a legit competitor to the DJM / CDJ's which cost, all told, >$10k for a standard, club-ready setup.
  • msephton 2 hours ago
    I currently use DJ.Studio so I'm interested how Mixxx compares.
  • iammrpayments 4 hours ago
    I thought this was Donald’s Knuth Mix computer at first
    • brudgers 3 hours ago
      If only he had wanted to DJ organ music.
  • cies 6 hours ago
    I've been using this for the few DJ sets I do per year. Very complete software, very stable also.

    Sadly I have to use RekordBox now that I want to not bring the laptop + DJ controller, but just a USB stick. And RekordBox does not run well on Linux (tried VirtualBox and Wine, both failed attempts).

    Sadly there's no RecordBox clone, or "export to RekordBox USB" feature on Mixxx.

    • diggan 6 hours ago
      > And RekordBox does not run well on Linux

      RekordBox doesn't even run well on Windows, so hard to imagine what worse looks like.

      But yeah, if Mixxx (or other FOSS software) could offer writing playlists into USB sticks, I'd get rid of RekordBox yesterday because few software out there works as bad as RekordBox.

      • quesomaster9000 5 hours ago
        I considered renting out some Pioneer equipment to add RekordBox playlist writing support, mainly because I'm in a similar situation. Mixxx does have support for reading USBs & SD cards, but not writing ;_;

        Unfortunately it's far down my priority list given the cost, my unfamiliarity with Mixxx development and that I rarely do anything without Mixx.

        But this is absolutely what ecosystem grants/bounties should be for.

        • Mashimo 5 hours ago
          I think there are two projects who worked on it a bit:

          * https://github.com/kimtore/rex

          * https://github.com/Holzhaus/rekordcrate (Current status of export: https://github.com/Holzhaus/rekordcrate/pull/103 )

        • diggan 5 hours ago
          > But this is absolutely what ecosystem grants/bounties should be for.

          I'd be down to fund a bounty/grant for this (and I'm clearly not alone), if anyone is looking for booty :)

          • Mashimo 5 hours ago
            See my other comment to parent, there are two libraries who started, but did not finish. Maybe they can be incentivized to start up again.
        • copyleftdj 4 hours ago
          Would be cool if there is Foss firmware to install on pioneer cdj. It just feels better for a lot DJs. Any projects in this direction?

          BTW, the DJ collective I'm with has Pioneer CDJ. If anyone need use the hardware let me know. I'm trying to get them to start using open FOSS software, but it is hard.

        • phntxx 5 hours ago
          Could not agree more. I recently made the switch to exclusively using Linux on Desktop machines, yet I now have to have a Windows PC laying around for the sole purpose of updating my USB using Rekordbox.
        • fragmede 3 hours ago
          > RekordBox playlist writing support

          Without the Rekordbox beat analysis, you'd only be getting track names, and you can achieve similar functionality on the Pioneer side by just putting the files for a each playlist in a separate folder.

          There's a kaitai bin format parser config file for the usb db file but kaitai isn't expressive enough to read it properly from that.

          Pioneer (err Alphatheta)'s stranglehold on the industry is a shame due to lack of interoperability, among other issues with Rekordbox.

          • nzoschke 3 hours ago
            An export db with title, artist, album and rough BPM could be useful to interoperate with the native browse and search menus on a CDJ.

            Without beat grids have to best match by ear but that’s par for the course for many DJ scenarios.

  • bramgn 4 hours ago
    What does GPL actually do?
    • sho_hn 4 hours ago
      In this space, probably the biggest effect might be that HW vendors of DJ kit cannot fork this software to bundle with their HW and avoid sharing their improvements back, so people using other HW can still benefit.
  • helpfulContrib 6 hours ago
    >GPL DJ Software

    Its kind of a nuisance that, as a requirement to build Mixxx on MacOS, ones has to use foreign binaries, disable Gatekeeper, run a 'first build', and from that point on .. can treat the project as a regular CMake project. Re-enable Gatekeeper after the 'first build'.

    Hmm.

    What are the custom binaries for? Surely not cmake. Not having - yet - done this myself (until I can put it in a VM), I'm nevertheless kind of curious about this necessity.

    Any Mixxx/MacOs devs care to describe the contents?

    • bri3d 5 hours ago
      You can just read the source? mixxx-deps come from a build process sourced from:

      https://github.com/mixxxdj/vcpkg

      The same binary-backed build process is present on Windows, too, presumably to keep people from needing to go through dependency hell to contribute to the project.

  • sirlone 3 hours ago
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  • drdirk 6 hours ago
    What does GPL stand for?
    • frob 6 hours ago
      GNU General Public License: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License

      It's one of several options for software licenses a developer or team can use when distributing a piece of software to help ensure that it and its derivates stay free and open-source.

      • TeeMassive 5 hours ago
        I like your "no bad questions" attitude and your straightforward answer!
    • asimovfan 6 hours ago
      Its like when Morpheus goes into the Matrix to free more people.
      • BlueTemplar 2 hours ago
        Matrixxx (and Trinity, of course, wears a GIMP suit)
  • joeofbook 4 hours ago
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