Show HN: Artemis, a Calm Web Reader

(artemis.jamesg.blog)

271 points | by zerojames 1 day ago

17 comments

  • digest 2 hours ago
    For those looking for something like this but that updates on your own schedule and handles more than just RSS, I built Digest - https://usedigest.com
  • aurea 23 hours ago
    I have been thinking of creating a similar app; however I wanted to do a "Sunday paper". This look nice and I like the minimalist design, but I would prefer to have solution that I can self-host.
    • exprez135 21 hours ago
      The tool actually is open source, so you could self-host it if you wish. MIT license, in Python. The repository [1] is linked in the blog post the author wrote about the project [2].

      [1]: https://github.com/capjamesg/web-reader

      [2]: https://jamesg.blog/2024/11/30/designing-a-calm-web-reader/

      • zerojames 20 hours ago
        The open source version is a bit different from the hosted one: the open source code involves running the polling script, then building a static site (which is how I run the site for several months as a single-user project).

        I am planning to move the polling changes upstream soon and then figure out a plan for open sourcing the full project.

    • stanislavb 9 hours ago
      I've been thinking of it, too. And, I've created one a few years ago. It's been running 100% uptime and for free since then - lenns.io. I'd be happy if you give it a go and let me know what you think.
  • dewey 21 hours ago
    This would be interesting as a project using the Miniflux API (https://github.com/miniflux/v2). That way it would already use my existing feeds and I don't have a separate "reading tool".
  • stanislavb 9 hours ago
    I created something similar a few years ago. It's been running fine for me and several other people. Its free, too. It's calm too, although it updates as often as 1-5 minutes.

    I'd be happy if someone gives it a go and shares some feedback. I'd say it's quite similar to Artemis; however - you can set different priorities to the sources and the relevant topics.

    Cheers - lenns.io

    • szszrk 8 hours ago
      It would benefit from a screenshot of the actual UI. On mobile there is little that would make me want to register.

      You know how we are with creating accounts just to have a glance...

      The description looks solid to me, though.

      • stanislavb 5 hours ago
        Fair enough. I’ll setup a demo account, too.
        • szszrk 4 hours ago
          That would be perfect.

          A newspaper-like projects always gather interest of tinkerers. People love to do things like that for eink devices, export that to pdf to be displayed offline and so on

          This could be a nice way to provide clean content, prefiltered.

  • kayvulpe 5 hours ago
  • kenrick95 23 hours ago
    I tried to import the OPML file exported by https://wordpress.com/read/subscriptions but it says "Failed to parse OPML."

    Edit: just managed to find the support email. I'll send you the OPML file through it~

    • zerojames 23 hours ago
      Apologies for the inconvenience. A fix has been deployed.
      • kenrick95 14 hours ago
        Thanks a lot for the prompt support!
      • conroydave 22 hours ago
        this is why HN is the best
    • zerojames 23 hours ago
      Thank you for the email. The OPML import is a bit of a newer feature so it hasn't had as much testing. I'll take a look to see what's going on and get back to you.
  • xnx 23 hours ago
    I love the idea of a simple, digest-style, mode. Might make some version of this for Instagram. There's nothing so important on Instagram that it can't wait for the next day.
  • butz 16 hours ago
    Isn't updating once a day a bit too rare for content heavy websites, like HN? I use online RSS reader just to keep up with all updates when I am not online. With updates once a day I'd probably be using desktop RSS reader app.
    • jfim 13 hours ago
      I believe the idea is to have a source that updates infrequently, so that one isn't compelled to refresh it all the time.

      It's not unlike one service that I saw where you'd get email once per day in your inbox, at a specific time.

  • imiric 21 hours ago
    This looks great! Congrats on shipping.

    Have you considered open sourcing it? I would rather self-host something like this.

  • butz 16 hours ago
    Technical question: how are you dealing with feeds blocked by cloudflare protection or captchas?
    • zerojames 16 hours ago
      Good question. I haven't found this to be an issue yet, perhaps because of the infrequency with which resources are accessed.

      With that said, I can't guarantee this is not an issue. There are a few feeds that return errors that I need to investigate.

      • tenwz 16 hours ago
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    • moehm 14 hours ago
      Message the authors about this. Most website owners don't know their cms is also creating a rss/atom feed. Sometimes it took awhile, but I had moderate success with it.
  • borg16 22 hours ago
    thanks. I pay for miniflux through pikapods that I can now get rid of, thanks to your free and alternative offering.
  • alexpadula 21 hours ago
    Awesome!
  • rakoo 22 hours ago
    For reference, and not implying it's better or worse than your work OP, I've pleasantly used Fraidycat (https://fraidyc.at/) in the past. It's a webextension, so completely local, and also incorporates the idea of having a "calmer" experience: no infinite list of links to check, different update rates, ...

    I love your philosophy page, OP ! (https://jamesg.blog/2024/11/30/designing-a-calm-web-reader/)

    • zerojames 22 hours ago
      Thank you! I think how something is made, and the decisions that got it to where it is, is just as important as the thing itself.

      One of the delightful things about the web is we can all bring our own ideas and designs to problems.

      I haven't written about this yet, but one thing on my mind is the importance of good import/export features. With good import/export features, we can all move around and try different softwares to see which ones we like!

      • rakoo 20 hours ago
        Indeed, import/export is one of the most important design point centering control back to the user, and even better is abstracted storage of data: if I had a single OPML file accessible from everywhere (with auth, of course) and all tools took the universally accessible path, I could change feeds in one tool and automatically see the result in another without fussing out import/export buttons and procedures.
  • mmahemoff 23 hours ago
    What's a good place to discover high-quality RSS feeds these days?
    • freetonik 23 hours ago
      I'm curating a collection here https://minifeed.net/blogs/
      • dqv 23 hours ago
        Aw dang, looks like I can't subscribe to it in my feed reader. Still, this is a great collection. Thanks for sharing
        • freetonik 23 hours ago
          Do you mean to subscribe to the whole collection, one RSS feed for all the blogs in my list? I mean, I guess I can build that feature, but it's gonna be quite a firehose.
          • drdec 31 minutes ago
            My impression was that they wanted to be notified of new blogs via RSS, not the content of the blogs.

            But I could be wrong

          • onli 22 hours ago
            Not sure what parent meant, but the right way should be an opml file with the feeds, which the feed reader then can import. But maybe you are offering that already?
    • CharlesW 23 hours ago
      One tip: Every Substack has a feed, which is a nice alternative to having everything dropped in your email in-box. You just append "/feed" to the end of a newsletter URL, e.g. https://simonw.substack.com/feed.
      • marginalia_nu 21 hours ago
        I've been doing adjacent work for my search engine[1], and found substack to annoyingly be one of the sites that employ bot mitigation for its RSS endpoints. If you fetch at a very low rate it works fine, but for these types of bulk retrieval.

        Substack is also a bit of a pain to integrate with because they have zero useful contact information and direct all inquiries to a chatbot that is beyond useless, makes it so you have to guess how they want you to interact with their servers since there is nobody to answer questions.

        [1] Preview of my take of the idea: https://mastodon.social/@marginalia/113670235590972416

      • freetonik 22 hours ago
        I wonder if Substack would at some point remove or at least cripple this feature. Right now it seems the full-content RSS is served.
    • nelsonfigueroa 23 hours ago
      I added one of the random RSS feeds from https://indieblog.page/rss. I’ve discovered cool blogs this way that I now subscribe to directly.
      • freetonik 23 hours ago
        That's a very cool idea!
    • aharris6 21 hours ago
      I am working on a site, which is very pre-beta at this point, that works to help solve this problem using bluesky's "starter pack" model. Basically sharing curated lists of good follows. Give it a look at https://feed.computer if that seems interesting!
    • hombre_fatal 19 hours ago
      Heh, that was my question too once I signed up.

      I think OP’s project is a nice place to potentially have some default feeds. Both for purposes but also because it’s nice to see some interesting content once you sign up. Maybe even just major news items.

    • quinto_quarto 23 hours ago
      i made a directory of indie creators from across the web here, which i'm not sure what to do with: https://fanzine.world/

      I believe you can RSS most of them. certainly all the substacks.

    • rixed 22 hours ago
      Create a reader like Artemis and wait for people to upload their own bookmarks?
    • charles_f 23 hours ago
      I'm just picking the rss for the links I like on hn
  • asb 19 hours ago
    I think this is a really interesting area. I wrote a command line took for web reading with some similar motivations. In my case, you queue up the articles to read the next day.

    https://muxup.com/pwr

    • zerojames 19 hours ago
      Nice!

      P.S. I love the colour choices and the colour stripe interactions on your website. So cool!

  • nahimn 22 hours ago
    HN hug of death - “Internal Server Error”
  • TripleChecker 22 hours ago
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