6502 – Guideline to Reverse Engineering (how to read die shots) [pdf]

(downloads.reactivemicro.com)

123 points | by siraben 20 days ago

2 comments

  • siraben 20 days ago
    Some of the text seems to be cut off, but there is a docx version that loads fine with LibreOffice.[0] I am hosting a PDF export of that too.[1]

    [0] https://downloads.reactivemicro.com/Electronics/Reverse%20En...

    [1] https://cloud.siraben.dev/s/z9GTFfjDDgGXHSQ

  • surfingdino 19 days ago
    What's the legal status of reverse engineered designs? Can they be used commercially?
    • RetroTechie 19 days ago
      Afaik:

      # IC designs are covered by copyright law. But that covers an IC's specific design (transistors as layed out on the die, artwork etc). So verbatim 1:1 copying is a no-no.

      # Their function may be re-implemented if you design that re-implementation yourself. But some aspects of an IC's function may be covered by patents. This is why eg. there are no 3rd party x86 vendors apart from AMD/Intel or their licensees: leaving out patented bits would produce a non-competitive chip.

      Read: with IC for which patents have expired, reverse engineer to determine function -> re-implement using newer tech, is most likely ok. For a recent-ish chip, you may want to skip functions still covered by patents.

      The line between "reverse engineer to determine function" and "copy original design verbatim" is fuzzy though. That's where a cleanroom approach comes in (as noted by ce4).

      In case of the 6502, I wouldn't sweat it. :D

      • surfingdino 19 days ago
        Thank you for that clear and informative answer.
    • ce4 19 days ago
      Not unless one would take special measures of a clean room RE:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design