Ask HN: The biggest technology that people think is working, but it doesn't?

What's the biggest piece of technology that everyone thinks or pretends is working fine, but it actually doesn't?

9 points | by hkai 1660 days ago

8 comments

  • muzani 1659 days ago
    Currency and debt.

    Currency is a lot like electricity. It's a very portable form of power, easy to store, easy to convert to something else.

    Like you can have a lot of political power, you can have charisma, skills, or military power. But you can't convert that easily into the other, the way you can't convert a river into lighting your house.

    But the thing with electricity is that it still follows nature. You can't convert 1 MW of electricity into kinetic power, then convert it back to 1.1 MW. You can't lend it to someone with less, expect them to give you more, and have this system run forever. You can't just print as much of it as you think you can get away with.

    Banking is a kind of arms race. If nobody used banks and usurious debt, everyone would be better off. But the people who do it have an unfair advantage, forcing others to as well. Except now we're pushing it as far as the concept can go, with every country taking well near their GDP in foreign debt.

    The Bitcoin boom didn't come out of nothing. Some people lost faith in fiat and wanted to give alternative currency a shot. The bubble only happened when crypto attracted the attention of those who broke fiat in the first place.

    • sunstone 1659 days ago
      The money/electricity metaphor has one very fatal flaw. Electricity, as a natural entity, must conform with all the conservation laws of nature. Not so for money.

      The key attribute of money is that it's much more efficient than the next best alternative, which is trading my pigs for your shovels and that's why it continues to work even in extreme (eg hyperinflation) contexts.

      • muzani 1659 days ago
        I'd disagree with the last bit - the next best alternative could be Bitcoin, ETH, gold, Euro, e-wallet money, stocks, bonds, or even debt. You can trade dollars for an imaginary dollar-backed value in PayPal's database. You can use something like HelloGold if you prefer something gold-backed instead.

        You're probably right - that could be money's key attribute. So what happens when someone else does it better?

        • x220 1659 days ago
          That's still money, it's just different currencies. Money (or currency) is something that is widely accepted to have value not from its inherent properties but because it is accepted everywhere in a transaction. If something is difficult to exchange quickly with most exchange partners (e.g. taking days to transfer stocks from you to a gas station) then it's either not a currency or its a bad currency. Bitcoin and other cryptocoins are "sort-of-currencies" because you can't practically use bitcoin and stop using USD. This is why the SEC is starting to treat crypto like a security.
  • sunstone 1659 days ago
    The biggest piece of technology that seems fine but isn't is automobiles. They are much too big and ponderous for the 90% of the time they are moving one person around a big city at 30mph. Electrification will produce much smaller, lighter, cheaper, safer vehicles for this purpose.
  • LarryMade2 1658 days ago
    Advertising data algorithms. Usually they are just promoting things you already have recently purchased.
  • buboard 1657 days ago
    Advertising. There is not much published about how actual money people get on their investment in the major platforms, including online. It's not tech that "doesnt work", but it "doesnt work half the time". But since a lot of online advertising is fueled by the wave of high valuations , people seem to be fine with not knowing whether it works or not.
  • ScottFree 1656 days ago
    Science. I can't take any study seriously until it's been replicated at least once, preferably twice. Does anybody know if there's a search engine for replicated studies?
  • james_impliu 1657 days ago
    "machine learning" in large corporates, when in practice this is 90%+ just maths/algorithms
  • gradschool 1659 days ago
    facial recognition, especially when used by UK police against certain minorities

    ML models making decisions about who gets to receive benefits (according to a bunch of articles in today's Guardian)

  • throwaway981211 1657 days ago
    Recommendation systems.