Facebook investigates data firm Crimson Hexagon

(bbc.com)

41 points | by john58 2110 days ago

4 comments

  • ourmandave 2110 days ago
    Crimson Hexagon sounds like something from a "nefarious organization" random name generator.
  • microdrum 2110 days ago
    Weird how Facebook keeps signing lucrative contracts with companies whose behavior then surprises and astounds them.
    • microdrum 2109 days ago
      "Weird how Facebook keeps signing lucrative contracts with companies whose behavior then surprises and astounds them."

      Another way to put this: perhaps the morally and legally culpable behavior is. . . Facebook's.

    • matt4077 2110 days ago
      Facebook did not get any money for Cambridge Analytica's use of their API.
      • schwabacher 2110 days ago
        Facebook got money for the ads bought based on Cambridge Analytica's use of their API.
    • rfc 2109 days ago
      There was no contract between Facebook and Crimson Hexagon regarding data. All data mined was publicly available to anyone.
  • Rjevski 2110 days ago
    Maybe instead of "investigating" data companies, just realize that data companies' sole purpose is to profit off violating user's privacy? I mean it says it right there in the name, no investigation required. If a company uses data for anything else than providing legitimate service to its user, it should be kicked off the platform.
    • snikolic 2110 days ago
      In this case, it sounds like CH is using publicly available data only. That doesn't sound like a violation of user privacy, unless Facebook is misleading users about what portions of their information are publicly available.
  • mtgx 2110 days ago
    Has Facebook investigated Peter Thiel's Palantir yet?
    • koboll 2110 days ago
      Good luck getting them to investigate a company owned by a major Facebook shareholder.
    • tzs 2110 days ago
      "Facebook is investigating whether secretive firm Palantir had 'improper' access to user data" [1]

      "Facebook ‘Looking Into’ Palantir’s Access to User Data Harvested by Cambridge Analytica" [2]

      [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/facebook-investigating-if-pa...

      [2] https://gizmodo.com/facebook-looking-into-palantir-s-access-...

    • 908087 2110 days ago
      If you took Zuckerberg's word for it, you'd be left thinking Facebook had never heard of Palantir.
      • koolba 2110 days ago
        His word in an interview or PR bulletin is one thing. His word during testimony before Congress is another.

        Out of the entire Zuckerberg / Congress sideshow,m I thought this part stands out as clearly lying to Congress. Not knowing the number of data points isn't out of line (10? 1000? 10000?), but there's no way he doesn't know the term "shadow profiles" in the context of tracking people without Facebook accounts.

        > Lujan: Facebook has detailed profiles on people who have never signed up for Facebook, yes or no?

        > Zuckerberg: Congressman, in general we collect data on people who have not signed up for Facebook for security purposes to prevent the kind of scraping you were just referring to [reverse searches based on public info like phone numbers].

        > Lujan: So these are called shadow profiles, is that what they’ve been referred to by some?

        > Zuckerberg: Congressman, I’m not, I’m not familiar with that.

        > Lujan: I’ll refer to them as shadow profiles for today’s hearing. On average, how many data points does Facebook have on each Facebook user?

        > Zuckerberg: I do not know off the top of my head.

        • 908087 2110 days ago
          I was specifically referring to his playing dumb about Palantir during that testimony.

          I agree that his pretending to be unfamiliar with shadow profiles was one of the more egregious lies presented to congress, though.